Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Sean's avatar

Crooke "The two-state formula simply is not realisable in our present moment of heightened passions (if it ever was). The more basic question is whether a two-state solution is a solution at all. "

It's not a solution it's the Cause of the conflict from the get go in 1947 --- and earlier in the 1930s when it was first floated and caused violence and riots across the land.

And Crooke - "The US and Europe, having ordained a state (UNGA Resolution 181) .."

He overstates its importance and value, I think he should be more careful and clearer. RES 181 is not fit for purpose. The State of Israel was never founded upon, nor "ORDAINED BY" Res 181 and people should stop inferring it was, or that 181 has any relationship at all to the obstinate unilateral criminal declaration of Israel as a state in 1948 -- because nothing could be further from the truth.

People should read it carefully in full and pay particular attention to the wording and see the huge problems it was creating --- driven not just by Europe and the US but the fledgling incompetent UN system and wild gullibility of the 5 nation adhoc committee that produced this mess of a "recommendation" --- and see what the Zionists actually created then and how they changed it since.

"Recommends to the United Kingdom, as the

mandatory Power for Palestine, and to all other

Members of the United Nations the adoption and

implementation, with regard to the future gov-

emment of Palestine, of the Plan of Partition with

Economic Union set out below;"

Requests that

( a) The Security Council take the necessary

measures as provided for in the plan for its im-

plementation;

http://undocs.org/A/RES/181(II)

Please read it in detail .... it is not a "Plan" it is a joke - it is a ludicrous document and a recipe for total disaster, violence and crimes against humanity. To Pass this Resolution was an act of Criminal Insanity (imo)

The most incompetent piece of work ever attempted by the UN (UNSC 242 comes a close second) - this Resolution was never implemented - it is a non-entity - it essentially never existed - people (incl Crooke) should just stop referring to it at all and ignore it completely.

Cheers

Expand full comment
Random Ruminations's avatar

"What -- other than a humiliating defeat -- would now persuade frightened Israelis to agree to a sovereign Palestinian State?"

Aye, there's the rub. The assumption that Israel gets to determine such outcomes. If and when the other countries in the region can come together sufficiently to propose a territorial configuration that has a chance of working, Israel for sure can reject their proposal but if they are too difficult they may find that they will at some point be asked to leave altogether. They don't get to decide how Syria, Lebanon, Egypt and Jordan run their countries, and NOR should they get to determine that for the Palestinians.

That assumption has got to go. And the regional states, either within or multilaterally outside the UN (which is usually worse then useless with this issue) must find a way to banish it from their collective geopolitical space and stop ceding initiative and terms to the eternally pushy Israelis...

Expand full comment
24 more comments...

No posts