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Richard V's avatar

Extraordinary interview. Essential reading. Thanks for posting.

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Just noticed the new title: 'Geopolitical Gymnasium'. !!

About the UN resolutions viz Two-State. We need much more detail than platitude. If history has shown us anything in Israel for decades now is that the two peoples do not fare well together. Furthermore, the configuration of the territories, with Palestine now being split into two surrounded, largely walled-off enclaves, belies the notion of the term 'State'. If there is to be a two state solution, then each State needs to have properly configured territory with one not impinging upon or surrounding the other - no more donuts, pretzels, question marks and other unworkable shapes! And perhaps best to have a wall between the two states to start with.

Is this what is being proposed, a substantive territorial re-ordering? If so, have never once read about it. If not, what is being proposed? More of the same, which clearly has not, does not and never will work?

As to your One State of Palestine, that is what seems eminently reasonable to me, but that means that all Jewish settlers should return to their countries of origin (or go to Birobidzhan, which might well become a very high-growth region soon). But I don't think anyone imagines that Israeli citizens or Zionist leadership will consent to such a solution (do they?).

The other obvious solution is for all Palestinians to resettle in nearby Arab nations letting Israelis have the whole thing to themselves and enjoy a single-race State which is their heart's desire, though they have zero collective experience in such a thing going back millenia (if indeed they are a continuous people as they claim).

So I appreciate Lavrov's elegant, sober, oh-so-reasonable statements, but there is nothing substantive there to work with. It sounds similar to Putin's oh-so-reasonable explanations of what went wrong in Ukraine ('they wouldn't honour any agreements) but meanwhile hundreds are dying day after day, month after month. Therefore, am not sure what his point really is other than to keep bashing the Americans, who he knows very well are controlled by a well organized Zionist faction, known as the neocons, who work hand in glove with all leadership organs in Israel proper and have nothing to do with the American people proper or their interests other than to seed Christianity with Zionist heresies going back to the infiltrated creation of Protestantism and more. https://tinyurl.com/yrbrqzht

Is he going to sit down with the neocons-cum-Israelis to help create a Two-State solution that Israelis will honor and Palestinians would trust them to? How? That would be a huge breakthrough. Or is this latest war - as it is being billed - a means to finally bring things to such a point that a Two Separate State solution with redrawn maps and two separate territories can finally be hammered out?

None of these issues are addressed.

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