Negotiations? Ukraine Endgame? What of the EU/NATO?

From MoA Ukraine Open Thread

Russian troops enter Paris 1814

Those opining Putin will conduct the negotiations clearly don't know a damned thing about Russia. Negotiating is the job of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and its chief Sergei Lavrov. Currently, the current best guess by those willing to make one is either collapse and capitulation by Ukraine and thus no negotiations versus a surrender in the field by the Ukie Army, both of which would occur at some point next year. Team Biden has stated it wants the conflict to continue until the POTUS election is over. And Russia still requires a completely new security arrangement with Europe as proposed in December 2021, meaning it has no time deadline.

What can NATO possibly do once its Ukraine proxy's defeated? NATO essentially has no air force, no credible air defenses, almost no artillery and ammo, and no main battle tanks capable of defeating Russian tanks. NATO does have lots of meat as did Ukraine, but NATO saw very well how that meat was ground. Furthermore, ALL NATO national economies are in the toilet, and no NATO nation can simply print euros to finance their military unlike the Outlaw US Empire.

Battle of Vienna 1813

In 1813, Russia decided to march West to finish the job, which lasted until 31 March 1814. Russia had to march West in 1945 to finish the job (although as we know it wasn't finished). So, from my POV, does Russia again march West to again finish the job? Yes, the context is different but also the same: The West's aim is/was to destroy Russia. Russia must decide to completely defeat European NATO or to allow it to rebuild its power so it can try yet again. Yes, I know Russia will impose a new security regime on Europe, but there's no guarantee Europe will obey. And Russia certainly doesn't want the expense of occupying Europe again.

Soviet troops in Berlin 1945

It's possible to view the EU/NATO complex and its Master the Outlaw US Empire as a Hitlerian or Napoleonic personage given its Megalomania and clear support for Neonaziliberalism, with current EU politicos essentially clones of their US counterparts, none of them being fit for governance and more suited for a prison cell. It's thus possible to view Russia as liberating Europe from its Neonaziliberal oligarchy and treat the endgame somewhat as it did with Napoleon who abdicated and went into exile. Many have called for the EU/NATO structure to be broken and done away with for decades, and it's perhaps easier to see why today than previously. And then there's the deep, longstanding issue within some European nations of Russophobia that's as bad as Nazism and would take many generations to try and eradicate. Some like the Balts and Poles, will take centuries to wring that from their cultural psyches; so, what does Russia do with them since its damned if it treats them good or bad? Quite the pickle.

With the EU/NATO kaput, new governance and financial institutions will be required. If NATO's kaput, are all Outlaw US Empire troops gone? And if not, how can Europe claim to be sovereign with occupation forces in its midst? Russia could demand their withdrawal in its new security guidelines for Europe. And of course, there'll be lots to do within each European nation to reorder itself as the current oligarchy cannot be allowed to continue in power--AND--the financial institutions must become public utilities to they cannot be used to overpower governments ever again.

Yes, none of the above will be easy, but it must be done if the world's to enjoy peace. And I'm sure I didn't cover everything either.

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