The new equation is the demonstrated ability of Iran to attack any target inside Occupied Palestine it chooses due to the inability of Zionist and Western AD systems to do their job which is now very well documented in Ukraine, Saudi Arabia and now Palestine, with Iraq preceding them all. What follows are several comments I made at MoA this morning:
Ritter has a good handle on the technical networks displayed on 13 - 14 Apr
If Russia and/or Iran had electronic intelligence (ELINT) in the air during the "engagement" their knowledge of US air and missile defense (AMD) has improved worth far more than the billion bucks shot off by Israel.
They have seen sensors: TPY-2 (THAAD), SPY 1 (Aegis), Patriot, and various smaller sets. They have likely intercepted data links and recorded transmission characteristics. Seeing how sensors talk to battle management centers, to other sensors, to fire controllers and links between sensors and missiles to correct course in flight.......
They would have seen missile flight profiles that equal what could be recorded on test ranges.
On the fighter aircraft they have seen the data links between AWACS/AEWC, refueling tankers, and between F-35 and other airborne networks.....
The satellites will have caught it all--Russian, Iranian and Chinese. Ritter's description of the region's AD is wrong as Russia has the most powerful and dense systems globally, and its systems actually do what they're designed to do.
I agree; the set up in Israel is about as good as US can put together. All the sensors I mentioned were there! Engagement was covered except possibly the missiles that go directly with THAAD. There are things involved that are not open to the public.
Ritter got the US' sensors, networking and interfacing quite correct for a US Marine!
Retired USAF cold war, I have been in and out of US radars, air defense and data sharing theory since the early 1970's,
I agree that what could be captured was likely captured probably by both sides. The satellites may have been sufficient given the arial nature of the events.
At some point the word on the street in Israel might provide for a different take. Time will tell.
The West might quit its saber rattling against Iran but that would be too much to ask. Same for China. Propaganda has to be spread and repeated.
The US is funding 'new, improved' AD technology [Lockheed-Martin]. As I explained in detail on MoA a few times, the US procurement model is too slow and tedious (never mind the expense) against more rapid, more effective and cheaper innovations by the Russians. I imagine that the Chinese are not far behind the Russians in procurement and brainpower.
It strikes me that the Iranian victory may be the nearest thing this century to the thrill which was felt by intellectuals in the non-european world in 1904 when Japan comprehensively defeated Imperial Russia.
The parallel being that both represent symbolic punishments of 'western' arrogance.
The big difference, however is that Japan was setting out-very successfully- to mimic the imperialism of the 'white races', whereas Iran rejects that imperialism and, as it were, dedicates its victory to the cause of colonised and exploited.
"...IMO, the Turk public hasn't thought through what its support for Palestinians means when it comes to their livelihood."
Erdogan's son in law has a lot at stake-he profits enormously from the trade and makes a killing out of stolen Syrian oil, evidently.
But for the first of the Turkish population all that is at stake in their relations with Israel ids the shame-shared with Sissi in Egypt- of being the twin pillars on which the Zionst project currently rests.
One thinbg is certain: if they don't deal with the Zionists, the Zionists, with their insane imperial ideas, will come after them.
Yeah, I thought about adding Sissi and Egypt; but Ansarallah's shutdown of Red Sea and Suez with its loss of revenue for Egypt hasn't caused much squealing from that quarter. The New Equation also means something more for the overall region, but it's too early to see how that will be shaped.
There is a comment above that the Turks have not thought through the consequences of this new situation in the Middle East.
Well, the Americans are in the same boat.
One of our major exports are military weapons. Russian has shows that they are too expensive and they don't work. What will be the consequences to the US economy that threw their manufacturing base away and embraced finance?
And, like Israel, has the US realized that it cannot protect itself? Russia can wipe us out and we can't stop it.
This is no longer a Hollywood movie or a video game.
Well, I pointed out the situation you describe at the SMO's outset, and it's only become easier to see. The EU was colonized so the Outlaw US Empire has a built-in customer base for its faulty weapons, but the MIC is all about profits not about producing viable national defense assets, so there's no incentive for it to expand or improve.
Is it possible that Iran and allies will use AI to collate all the numbers/data in such a way so as to improve Iran's response in subsequent engagements? It creeped me out to learn of Israel's Lavender project that uses AI for more efficient murder. It reminds me of how the Brits used the new Maxim gun to more efficiently destroy African warriors back in the day.
Perhaps Iran will use some AI means, or perhaps not, but I expect the efforts of Iran to be shared with Russia and China who also have their own data to share. As for Lavender, the way Crooke has described it IMO doesn't make Zionist's murders any more "efficient" for they are going to murder those targeted anyway. The program aims at avoiding lawful human responsibility for murdering people. As was discussed in my article on AI last year, all AI is human based, even AI that generates further AI is human directed to do so.
Ritter has a good handle on the technical networks displayed on 13 - 14 Apr
If Russia and/or Iran had electronic intelligence (ELINT) in the air during the "engagement" their knowledge of US air and missile defense (AMD) has improved worth far more than the billion bucks shot off by Israel.
They have seen sensors: TPY-2 (THAAD), SPY 1 (Aegis), Patriot, and various smaller sets. They have likely intercepted data links and recorded transmission characteristics. Seeing how sensors talk to battle management centers, to other sensors, to fire controllers and links between sensors and missiles to correct course in flight.......
They would have seen missile flight profiles that equal what could be recorded on test ranges.
On the fighter aircraft they have seen the data links between AWACS/AEWC, refueling tankers, and between F-35 and other airborne networks.....
The hubris!
The satellites will have caught it all--Russian, Iranian and Chinese. Ritter's description of the region's AD is wrong as Russia has the most powerful and dense systems globally, and its systems actually do what they're designed to do.
I agree; the set up in Israel is about as good as US can put together. All the sensors I mentioned were there! Engagement was covered except possibly the missiles that go directly with THAAD. There are things involved that are not open to the public.
Ritter got the US' sensors, networking and interfacing quite correct for a US Marine!
Retired USAF cold war, I have been in and out of US radars, air defense and data sharing theory since the early 1970's,
I do not know much about Russian sensors etc.
Have you seen videos of the Pantsir at work shooting down Strom Shadows? Very impressive, although not much is allowed to be seen.
I have not seen video of Pantsir.
In my earlier time engaging cruise missiles was a serious technical issue. In which I was never involved.
I agree that what could be captured was likely captured probably by both sides. The satellites may have been sufficient given the arial nature of the events.
At some point the word on the street in Israel might provide for a different take. Time will tell.
The West might quit its saber rattling against Iran but that would be too much to ask. Same for China. Propaganda has to be spread and repeated.
The US is funding 'new, improved' AD technology [Lockheed-Martin]. As I explained in detail on MoA a few times, the US procurement model is too slow and tedious (never mind the expense) against more rapid, more effective and cheaper innovations by the Russians. I imagine that the Chinese are not far behind the Russians in procurement and brainpower.
It strikes me that the Iranian victory may be the nearest thing this century to the thrill which was felt by intellectuals in the non-european world in 1904 when Japan comprehensively defeated Imperial Russia.
The parallel being that both represent symbolic punishments of 'western' arrogance.
The big difference, however is that Japan was setting out-very successfully- to mimic the imperialism of the 'white races', whereas Iran rejects that imperialism and, as it were, dedicates its victory to the cause of colonised and exploited.
We ousted Mosaddegh in 1953, installed our Shah.
I think the empire is on the wrong side in the Sunni Shiite schism, that goes back to 700 or 800 AD.
IMO, The Outlaw US Empire is on the wrong side of everything.
"...IMO, the Turk public hasn't thought through what its support for Palestinians means when it comes to their livelihood."
Erdogan's son in law has a lot at stake-he profits enormously from the trade and makes a killing out of stolen Syrian oil, evidently.
But for the first of the Turkish population all that is at stake in their relations with Israel ids the shame-shared with Sissi in Egypt- of being the twin pillars on which the Zionst project currently rests.
One thinbg is certain: if they don't deal with the Zionists, the Zionists, with their insane imperial ideas, will come after them.
Yeah, I thought about adding Sissi and Egypt; but Ansarallah's shutdown of Red Sea and Suez with its loss of revenue for Egypt hasn't caused much squealing from that quarter. The New Equation also means something more for the overall region, but it's too early to see how that will be shaped.
There is a comment above that the Turks have not thought through the consequences of this new situation in the Middle East.
Well, the Americans are in the same boat.
One of our major exports are military weapons. Russian has shows that they are too expensive and they don't work. What will be the consequences to the US economy that threw their manufacturing base away and embraced finance?
And, like Israel, has the US realized that it cannot protect itself? Russia can wipe us out and we can't stop it.
This is no longer a Hollywood movie or a video game.
Well, I pointed out the situation you describe at the SMO's outset, and it's only become easier to see. The EU was colonized so the Outlaw US Empire has a built-in customer base for its faulty weapons, but the MIC is all about profits not about producing viable national defense assets, so there's no incentive for it to expand or improve.
thanks karl...
Is it possible that Iran and allies will use AI to collate all the numbers/data in such a way so as to improve Iran's response in subsequent engagements? It creeped me out to learn of Israel's Lavender project that uses AI for more efficient murder. It reminds me of how the Brits used the new Maxim gun to more efficiently destroy African warriors back in the day.
Perhaps Iran will use some AI means, or perhaps not, but I expect the efforts of Iran to be shared with Russia and China who also have their own data to share. As for Lavender, the way Crooke has described it IMO doesn't make Zionist's murders any more "efficient" for they are going to murder those targeted anyway. The program aims at avoiding lawful human responsibility for murdering people. As was discussed in my article on AI last year, all AI is human based, even AI that generates further AI is human directed to do so.