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i am not a fan of AI... i think it is a dangerous slope, given our present inability as a species to overcome conflict or, only thru the use of power, as opposed to compromise and seeking a way for us all to get along on the planet.. i see the enthusiasm for it, but i am not a fan! thanks for these updates karl..

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Your POV is well founded. Humanity really isn't ready for AI, but it wasn't ready for atomics either or gun powder for that matter. The deviances must be eliminated, and we know where most of the deviants are.

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AI is clearly the future, no doubt about it. One has to wonder, how long will humans be nessacacery? We may have to bond human and AI together as cyborgs, Or blend organic brains with robotic exoskeleton. It will be an exciting addition for evolution.

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Putin's remarks in that vein are very important. Ever since Asimov proposed his Three Laws of Robotics, the world has needed to have a very serious discussion on AI. Putin's point as to why the West would want to participate in such negotiations was correct but would probably be rejected just because he made the proposal.

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Much like james I'm not a fan of AI either.

In an aside I was disappointed to learn of the ratio of one teacher to thirty students. While I am enthusiastic about educating young people about AI applications it seems to me that the increased efficiency forecast WRT industry and general production processes should free up more potential educators to reduce that 1 to 30 ratio.

AI is intimately connected to automation IMO. In the 1970s there was a much publicised forecast that increased automation would generate a society of artists - as in increased leisure time. A promise that has never materialised.

I agree that something like Asimov's three laws will be required because over an extended time period the pyramidal structures of political authority, an elitist cabal may - just as now - not necessarily have the best interests of the general population uppermost in their minds and their decision-making processes.

Hopefully something like the three laws would protect us ordinary folk if we allow that to happen. We might be less dangerous if we - humans - acted along the lines of those three laws. That would be the best protection of our species.

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Russia's student:teacher ratios are quite varied, the limiting factor being the availability of teachers. IMO, Russia's overall approach to and support for education makes up for that disparity.

In the 1920s, the future Lord Keynes wrote an essay about his future expectations, where productivity and automation would free people from drudgery and elevate them via education to higher vistas. I'd link to it if I could find it again; I read it back in the 1990s. Asimov was perceptive and brilliant; his Robot and Foundation Series still read with a freshness belying their actual age. Solving issues like AI require resolving the problems of Imperialism and Extremism so World Peace has an opportunity to take hold. Uplifting the knowledge and awareness level of Global Humanity is one of the key factors to their resolution, which is being spurred forward by the end of the Age of Plunder.

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Is this it?

https://www.aspeninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/files/content/upload/Intro_and_Section_I.pdf

On a personal note, I consider that the failure of the optimistic expectations of experts is probably because 'class struggle' hasn't been included in the equation, and the dynamics of that struggle, such as 'custodial' education systems which are not designed to provide much more than the basic requirements that a state has WRT its industrial peasantry. For instance; the 1944 Education Act here in UK made religious instruction a compulsory subject rather than providing compulsory lessons on the structure and function of local and national democracy/politics. Just one of my rants that sits alongside co-operative ownership models.

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Yes, the first entry on that page is the essay I referred to.

As I noted in another comment, the discussion between Hudson and Keen here makes a good foil for Keynes, I suggest the video so the charts can be seen, https://michael-hudson.com/2023/11/economists-as-hired-guns/

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Thanks will do.

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