Additionally, Lavrov was asked the following by Rossiya 1 TV channel and answered:
"Question: We heard the representatives of the United Kingdom and the United States respond to your words. It feels like they don't listen, don't hear, and don't want to hear what you say. Does it make sense to communicate with them in this format?
"Sergey Lavrov: They hear everything, but they are overwhelmed by their greatness, their permissiveness and infallibility complex.
"When you hear them say in defence (as they put it) of international law, sovereignty and territorial integrity, they completely forget about other important components of international law, such as the right of nations to self-determination and the sovereign equality of all UN member states. They forget that back in 1970 the General Assembly made a decision on how to interpret various provisions of the UN Charter. The Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Cooperation among States in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations was adopted. A voluminous, consensual document.
"It says that everyone is obliged to respect the territorial integrity of those countries whose governments observe the principle of self-determination of peoples and therefore represent the entire population living in this territory. Who does Vladimir Zelensky represent? Who did Petr Poroshenko and those who carried out the coup d'état in Kiev represent?
we know the cause of so many wars in my lifetime is directly due to not honouring the UN charter and we know the main country responsible for them - usa, with their uk and friends in tow.. safe travels..
This is just my personal assessment and opinion. In the long term, the SOC organization must form its own world organization and make it functional, one that actually represents international law as a basis. The corrupt and Western-dominated UN is hopelessly discredited and cannot be reformed. Just like the EU, WHO, WTO, World Bank, IOC and IMF, for example. I understand that the BRICS can't pull anything over their knees. But they must work on a replacement and a new beginning. The world urgently needs it. I am sure that the "Global South", which the UN does not do justice to, will join in.
Putin mentioned BRICS will eventually form its own parliament but didn't elaborate on when or much of anything else. The SCO is a regional organization while BRICS is global. As Lavrov has said many times, major UN institutions are compromised and are creatures of the West including the UN General Secretary's office which is required to be utterly impartial. Lavrov mentioned the Friends in Defense of the UN Charter organization and again prompted more nations to join that group. IMO, all nationals need to know the history behind the UN's formation and why its forerunner the League of Nations failed. As usual, you need to know where you've been to know where you're going.
As far as SOC and BRICS are concerned, you are absolutely right. The parliament thing should definitely happen. I read about it. But if the BRICS mutate into such a world organization, then a new name would have to be found. The BRICS can work together bilaterally. But as I read earlier from Glasjew, BRICS, SOC and EDB should be merged.
An additional idea.
Russia, China, Brazil, India and Saudi Arabia are the economic and geopolitical heavyweights. It is absolutely essential to finally resolve the serious problems between them peacefully. Not only the India-China conflict, but also other territorial disputes. That is why Pakistan, Vietnam, Malaysia and Indonesia must also become BRICS members. Later, if Turkey is smart, then Turkey too. These endless conflicts, including violence, harbor potential for conflict and weaken multipolar development.
One more addition.
The BRICS and SOC must focus on fighting oligarchy and corruption from the outset. I don't mean fighting multi-billionaires. That is a distant issue for the future, but the fight against the influence of billionaires on politics.
My last addition for now. LOL
The BRICS need to understand the importance of freedom of speech and freedom of the press. Including the elimination of the monopolization of media. Freedom is absolute. Any restriction on freedom eliminates freedom. At the same time the fight against (alleged) NGO's. Why is this important to me? Because I am an idealist and still have the illusion of a better world with happy people who can live out their full intellectual and creative potential. Restrictions on destructive media work must be reduced to criminal, racist, promotion of terrorism and war and character assassination.
I think the critical pillar is the creation of a financial platform so that trade and development can take place outside the US ability to block/sanction and interfere. Financial sovereignty can then lead onto other organisations within BRICS+ (whatever new name it takes). Until the "west" can throw off the chains of oligarchic/financial controllers it's pointless allowing any of them to have any role whatsoever.
The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that's required to make it work
-satoshi, 2009
While Lavrov appealing to rebuild trust is laudable, I can only agree on a political level, economically/technically, the issue was solved in 2009, and BRICS 15 year long cold shoulder toward Bitcoin does not endear me to trusting them politically !
Yeah, there're a few but I just let them out themselves. Traveling today so Lavrov's Big Presser will be posted later than it might otherwise. Be home tonight!
An admirable comprehensive setting out of where we are.
1 Any BRICS+ Parliament by constitution must have no powers of governance of its national members. Its function would be to coordinate and offer mutually agreed suggestions to its constituents.
Having powers of governance and control would make it politically equivalent to the hegemonic paramount power.
2 International mutualism: Diplomacy by gift and benevolent commission, rather than by threat, theft, loan and [full-spectrum] belligerence; not by obligated gift requiring reciprocation, nor gifts of debt. Rather than, or in addition to, freely agreed commercial exchanges. That’s what China has started doing.
Gift or grant can be in currency, productive activity, training, goods, non-contributory insurance [emergency aid, solidarity] Doing something helpful for another.
Any international cooperative whose members contribute freely to a fund can disburse gifts to themselves and others outside the cooperative. That’s what in part gilds were.
3 Countermutualism
The sociopolitical institution, social dynamic, of blood-feud is what the AngloAmerican agency [British Empire, United States Hegemony] has been fomenting around the globe for several centuries. The mechanism for divide-and-rule, addictive belligerence.
This feud format definitively involves compulsive interminable exchange of atrocities. Each atrocity provokes a counter-atrocity ad infinitum. Performed nastinesses.
Merchants and their corporations and bankers have been destroying self-organising public services and collectively protective unions that they don’t and can’t own wherever they have arisen, as they impede the currency parasitism that they habitually practise.
Well formulated comment, Thanks! I see a BRICS parliament as managing relations between members not within those members, something akin to the UN and based on its Charter--the parallel institution many want to see arise.
I'll bet that Lavrov's statement makes sense to the Rest of The World.
In hindsight, Russia was correct to build a massive military capability because there is no telling what USA/NATO is going to do. I believe it was Lavrov who said: this will be the end of either NATO or Ukraine, or both.
The West could exploit and not listen to "the other" for a few centuries claiming that it was the natural order of things.
Unfortunately, Lavrov's statement makes no sense to supremacist talmudists who own and control US policies. One can not reason with supremacists, whether jewish or Ukrainian. The jewish and Ukrainian supremacists believe that they are superior to all "others" and can do whatever works for their interests (see the mediocre Israel-firster Blinken). It is a tragedy that the nuclear-armed US is in the clutches of banking cartel and leading war profiteers who understand personal danger only. And it seems that the humanity does not have other choice but to gather power and conviction to contain/eliminate the jewish fascists and the likes in the form of various terrorist organizations financed and weaponized by the US around the globe. These terrorist organizations (including NATO) and intelligent services (the CIA/MI6) serve the banking cartel and leading war profiteers and have been acting against the interests of humanity at large.
No need for the accent on the Jewish - accent on the Anglo Saxons will be adequate and sufficient
The supremacists are the A-S, have been for quite some time - this to be taken in the exact sense of a military élite/ruling class
No other group can form this class
The dominant capitalist class, for a couple of centuries now, have had as a major constituent the banks, but money alone - see the Ukraine - does not get very far on it's own - necessary is the whole apparatus of the industrial economy
This too is the domain of the dominant A-S
Your fixation on certain ethnic/religious sections is merely to blind you to the realities of your economic/political system and society
thanks karl.. i am heartened by his continual focus on the future in a positive sense - something that is sorely lacking in most political commentary and from the establishment.. lavrov is a true statesman for russia and the well being and longevity of the planet...
How I wish that my own country the UK had such a statesman of his gravitas & intellect. But instead, the UK obsequiously follows the US neocon warmongers in vassalage. In anticipation for some crumbs.
well if it is any consolation martin - here in canada we suffer the same situation! cheers to you! at some point hopefully we can all rise above this and get on a more positive vibration....
here is a quote from the white house daily press briefings from yesterday.. you'll find it revealing for all it doesn't say and what little it does..
"QUESTION: I want to stay in the region. Russia’s Lavrov just landed in New York this morning along with Zakharova and others. Both are actually under current U.S. visa restrictions. We have discussed that previously, in pervious years, that you guys comply with obligations, 1947 agreement, but the question is how does it look like right now – I mean, we discussed just three weeks ago how Russia not only violates the UN Charter but also does violate UN sanctions on North Korea. We’ve discussed how they gifted a car to North Korean dictator. So how – first of all, what restrictions they are under when they’re going to be in New York? And secondly, what does – how does it look like when you think about UN credibility and this man is going to lead Security Council meeting?
MR MILLER: So when you want to speak to our credibility when it comes to Russia, look at our actions.
QUESTION: I mentioned the UN —
MR MILLER: No, no – hold – look at our actions over the past two years with holding Russia accountable, and I think it answers that question quite well. When it comes to the United Nations and representatives of any country attending events at the United Nations, we have a responsibility as the host of the United Nations to allow foreign diplomats to attend. That is an obligation that has been upheld for decades by administrations of both parties and it’s one that the United States takes seriously. That said, we do have the ability to impose restrictions to make sure that diplomats that do attend for legitimate UN meetings only can participate in those meetings and can’t take off on, say, tourist – tourism visits across the United States."
Furtehrmore, Lavrov said this is answer to a qestion from Channel 1:
"Question: At a meeting with Foreign Minister of the State of Kuwait Adel Al-Yahya, you said that it was interesting to listen to the position of your Western colleagues after your speech at the UN Security Council. What did you mean?
"Sergey Lavrov: They have once again signed off on disrespect for the main principle of the UN Charter, which establishes that the UN is based on the sovereign equality of states. What they are doing is aimed solely at subordinating everything, including the UN itself, to their selfish interests."
And the above idiocy from Miller is an example of what Lavrov said.
Lavrov quite rightly points out how the west looked the other way in regard to Kiev's persecution of Russian minorities. On the other hand , I don't recall Lavrov openly expressing concern about China's treatment of the Uyghurs either.
He did say what needed to be said regarding the US and UN. I expect that it will make little difference in the end , and realignment will come via economic collapse or the battlefield. I hope I am doubly wrong.
Could you just stop with the Uyghurs nonsense? Until jews stop mass slaughtering the Palestinian children and women, the opinions like yours smells strongly of hasbara.
Funny comment. You couldnt be more wrong if you tried. The Uyghurs probably dont see their situation as a nonsense. How you make the connection logical in that last sentence escapes me.
Evidence based, not the nonsense that emanates out of ASPI. To be clear there's a push to have several parties investigated for treason. The current US led interference in Australian politics is totally unacceptable.
Thank you for the linked article. Gerrard White appears to be correct in his assessment of some contributors.
Back to the article you linked, I liked this paragraph "Passing off unsubstantiated allegations of forced labour as factual and substantial has ultimately meant it’s the Uyghurs who have suffered (an already economically disadvantaged ethnic group). You see, under international human rights law, every individual is entitled to enjoy the right to work and the right to access work-training programs; but not the Uyghurs, it would seem. When your ethnic group has the misfortune of being used by Western powerbrokers in a game of geopolitical one-upmanship, your group’s human rights can be up for the taking; especially when the game is rigged."
Although the link from article to his report didn't work for me, so I searched the site and found this:
Thank you for the excellent link. I seldom read from Western mainstream media now, as I've become aware of the hypocrisies and the way media can twist falsehoods into biased narratives.
This certainly helps counter the narrative that the US & the West that uses the Uyghur camps to criticize China. The new US VP Vance has just suggested that the US should emulate China's approach of constructing roads and airports in African nations, as opposed to engaging in exploitation and creating IMF debt. This indicates a glimmer of hope for a different strategy.
There is nothing funny about your attempt at dismissing the Genocide of Palestinians. And what was the name of the main operative during the judeo-banderite coup d'etat in Kiev in 2014, which generated the ongoing war in Ukraine? -- Nuland-Kagan. This does not sound Chinese, does not it? The pest collaborated directly with the Ukrainian Nazi Party; she even decided who will become a prez of Ukraine. The judeo-banderite coup culminated in Odessa where the US besties burn alive dozens of civilians. That was a regular auto-da-fe, was not it, "Steve O?"
The judeo-banderite coup d'etat was followed by the bombardment of civilians in Donbas: 16 thousands human beings, including hundreds and hundreds of children, were murdered by Nuland-Kagan's chosen people, the banderites.
Try to stay on point. The war in Palestine and the war in Ukraine are run by the same people, and these people are not Chinese.
Additionally, Lavrov was asked the following by Rossiya 1 TV channel and answered:
"Question: We heard the representatives of the United Kingdom and the United States respond to your words. It feels like they don't listen, don't hear, and don't want to hear what you say. Does it make sense to communicate with them in this format?
"Sergey Lavrov: They hear everything, but they are overwhelmed by their greatness, their permissiveness and infallibility complex.
"When you hear them say in defence (as they put it) of international law, sovereignty and territorial integrity, they completely forget about other important components of international law, such as the right of nations to self-determination and the sovereign equality of all UN member states. They forget that back in 1970 the General Assembly made a decision on how to interpret various provisions of the UN Charter. The Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Cooperation among States in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations was adopted. A voluminous, consensual document.
"It says that everyone is obliged to respect the territorial integrity of those countries whose governments observe the principle of self-determination of peoples and therefore represent the entire population living in this territory. Who does Vladimir Zelensky represent? Who did Petr Poroshenko and those who carried out the coup d'état in Kiev represent?
"This is all from the devil, complete legal nihilism. We will talk about this in detail tomorrow at a big press conference." https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/1962093/
Lavrov's next to last sentence is as important as to why they don't hear.
I'll be traveling tomorrow and have no idea when I'll be able to provide the translation of tomorrow's "big" presser, but I will eventually.
we know the cause of so many wars in my lifetime is directly due to not honouring the UN charter and we know the main country responsible for them - usa, with their uk and friends in tow.. safe travels..
This is just my personal assessment and opinion. In the long term, the SOC organization must form its own world organization and make it functional, one that actually represents international law as a basis. The corrupt and Western-dominated UN is hopelessly discredited and cannot be reformed. Just like the EU, WHO, WTO, World Bank, IOC and IMF, for example. I understand that the BRICS can't pull anything over their knees. But they must work on a replacement and a new beginning. The world urgently needs it. I am sure that the "Global South", which the UN does not do justice to, will join in.
Putin mentioned BRICS will eventually form its own parliament but didn't elaborate on when or much of anything else. The SCO is a regional organization while BRICS is global. As Lavrov has said many times, major UN institutions are compromised and are creatures of the West including the UN General Secretary's office which is required to be utterly impartial. Lavrov mentioned the Friends in Defense of the UN Charter organization and again prompted more nations to join that group. IMO, all nationals need to know the history behind the UN's formation and why its forerunner the League of Nations failed. As usual, you need to know where you've been to know where you're going.
As far as SOC and BRICS are concerned, you are absolutely right. The parliament thing should definitely happen. I read about it. But if the BRICS mutate into such a world organization, then a new name would have to be found. The BRICS can work together bilaterally. But as I read earlier from Glasjew, BRICS, SOC and EDB should be merged.
An additional idea.
Russia, China, Brazil, India and Saudi Arabia are the economic and geopolitical heavyweights. It is absolutely essential to finally resolve the serious problems between them peacefully. Not only the India-China conflict, but also other territorial disputes. That is why Pakistan, Vietnam, Malaysia and Indonesia must also become BRICS members. Later, if Turkey is smart, then Turkey too. These endless conflicts, including violence, harbor potential for conflict and weaken multipolar development.
One more addition.
The BRICS and SOC must focus on fighting oligarchy and corruption from the outset. I don't mean fighting multi-billionaires. That is a distant issue for the future, but the fight against the influence of billionaires on politics.
My last addition for now. LOL
The BRICS need to understand the importance of freedom of speech and freedom of the press. Including the elimination of the monopolization of media. Freedom is absolute. Any restriction on freedom eliminates freedom. At the same time the fight against (alleged) NGO's. Why is this important to me? Because I am an idealist and still have the illusion of a better world with happy people who can live out their full intellectual and creative potential. Restrictions on destructive media work must be reduced to criminal, racist, promotion of terrorism and war and character assassination.
I think the critical pillar is the creation of a financial platform so that trade and development can take place outside the US ability to block/sanction and interfere. Financial sovereignty can then lead onto other organisations within BRICS+ (whatever new name it takes). Until the "west" can throw off the chains of oligarchic/financial controllers it's pointless allowing any of them to have any role whatsoever.
Agreed. A complete divorce is required. Remarriage can occur later if desired.
The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that's required to make it work
-satoshi, 2009
While Lavrov appealing to rebuild trust is laudable, I can only agree on a political level, economically/technically, the issue was solved in 2009, and BRICS 15 year long cold shoulder toward Bitcoin does not endear me to trusting them politically !
… for clarity, neither does black rock et al involvement, finally, with Bitcoin endear me to trusting them either !!
Dear Karl - you are doing well! I mean your transcriptions and reports are proving their value and importance with every passing day
You can measure this importance by the fact that you have more and more trolls in your comments secition
The price of success, alas alack
Yeah, there're a few but I just let them out themselves. Traveling today so Lavrov's Big Presser will be posted later than it might otherwise. Be home tonight!
Ok thanks Karl, I look forward to Lavrov
Nice to see some serious house cleaning being done at the UN. Oh and thank you for the Hudson link.
An admirable comprehensive setting out of where we are.
1 Any BRICS+ Parliament by constitution must have no powers of governance of its national members. Its function would be to coordinate and offer mutually agreed suggestions to its constituents.
Having powers of governance and control would make it politically equivalent to the hegemonic paramount power.
2 International mutualism: Diplomacy by gift and benevolent commission, rather than by threat, theft, loan and [full-spectrum] belligerence; not by obligated gift requiring reciprocation, nor gifts of debt. Rather than, or in addition to, freely agreed commercial exchanges. That’s what China has started doing.
Gift or grant can be in currency, productive activity, training, goods, non-contributory insurance [emergency aid, solidarity] Doing something helpful for another.
Any international cooperative whose members contribute freely to a fund can disburse gifts to themselves and others outside the cooperative. That’s what in part gilds were.
3 Countermutualism
The sociopolitical institution, social dynamic, of blood-feud is what the AngloAmerican agency [British Empire, United States Hegemony] has been fomenting around the globe for several centuries. The mechanism for divide-and-rule, addictive belligerence.
This feud format definitively involves compulsive interminable exchange of atrocities. Each atrocity provokes a counter-atrocity ad infinitum. Performed nastinesses.
Merchants and their corporations and bankers have been destroying self-organising public services and collectively protective unions that they don’t and can’t own wherever they have arisen, as they impede the currency parasitism that they habitually practise.
Well formulated comment, Thanks! I see a BRICS parliament as managing relations between members not within those members, something akin to the UN and based on its Charter--the parallel institution many want to see arise.
Thanks so much Karl. A hefty dose of Lavrov Logic first thing in my morning is a most hopeful and inspiring experience. xx
I'll bet that Lavrov's statement makes sense to the Rest of The World.
In hindsight, Russia was correct to build a massive military capability because there is no telling what USA/NATO is going to do. I believe it was Lavrov who said: this will be the end of either NATO or Ukraine, or both.
The West could exploit and not listen to "the other" for a few centuries claiming that it was the natural order of things.
Unfortunately, Lavrov's statement makes no sense to supremacist talmudists who own and control US policies. One can not reason with supremacists, whether jewish or Ukrainian. The jewish and Ukrainian supremacists believe that they are superior to all "others" and can do whatever works for their interests (see the mediocre Israel-firster Blinken). It is a tragedy that the nuclear-armed US is in the clutches of banking cartel and leading war profiteers who understand personal danger only. And it seems that the humanity does not have other choice but to gather power and conviction to contain/eliminate the jewish fascists and the likes in the form of various terrorist organizations financed and weaponized by the US around the globe. These terrorist organizations (including NATO) and intelligent services (the CIA/MI6) serve the banking cartel and leading war profiteers and have been acting against the interests of humanity at large.
No need for the accent on the Jewish - accent on the Anglo Saxons will be adequate and sufficient
The supremacists are the A-S, have been for quite some time - this to be taken in the exact sense of a military élite/ruling class
No other group can form this class
The dominant capitalist class, for a couple of centuries now, have had as a major constituent the banks, but money alone - see the Ukraine - does not get very far on it's own - necessary is the whole apparatus of the industrial economy
This too is the domain of the dominant A-S
Your fixation on certain ethnic/religious sections is merely to blind you to the realities of your economic/political system and society
thanks karl.. i am heartened by his continual focus on the future in a positive sense - something that is sorely lacking in most political commentary and from the establishment.. lavrov is a true statesman for russia and the well being and longevity of the planet...
How I wish that my own country the UK had such a statesman of his gravitas & intellect. But instead, the UK obsequiously follows the US neocon warmongers in vassalage. In anticipation for some crumbs.
well if it is any consolation martin - here in canada we suffer the same situation! cheers to you! at some point hopefully we can all rise above this and get on a more positive vibration....
Link to Lavrov speech - broader - and, imho, very important. [posted on Palestine thread so a bit behind this week - life you know ...]
Lavrov's Bold Speech at the UN Causes Shockwaves Globally!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C60vswMHd64 [20 mins well worth the time.]
karl
here is a quote from the white house daily press briefings from yesterday.. you'll find it revealing for all it doesn't say and what little it does..
"QUESTION: I want to stay in the region. Russia’s Lavrov just landed in New York this morning along with Zakharova and others. Both are actually under current U.S. visa restrictions. We have discussed that previously, in pervious years, that you guys comply with obligations, 1947 agreement, but the question is how does it look like right now – I mean, we discussed just three weeks ago how Russia not only violates the UN Charter but also does violate UN sanctions on North Korea. We’ve discussed how they gifted a car to North Korean dictator. So how – first of all, what restrictions they are under when they’re going to be in New York? And secondly, what does – how does it look like when you think about UN credibility and this man is going to lead Security Council meeting?
MR MILLER: So when you want to speak to our credibility when it comes to Russia, look at our actions.
QUESTION: I mentioned the UN —
MR MILLER: No, no – hold – look at our actions over the past two years with holding Russia accountable, and I think it answers that question quite well. When it comes to the United Nations and representatives of any country attending events at the United Nations, we have a responsibility as the host of the United Nations to allow foreign diplomats to attend. That is an obligation that has been upheld for decades by administrations of both parties and it’s one that the United States takes seriously. That said, we do have the ability to impose restrictions to make sure that diplomats that do attend for legitimate UN meetings only can participate in those meetings and can’t take off on, say, tourist – tourism visits across the United States."
https://www.state.gov/briefings/department-press-briefing-july-16-2024/#post-572824-RUSSIAUN
Furtehrmore, Lavrov said this is answer to a qestion from Channel 1:
"Question: At a meeting with Foreign Minister of the State of Kuwait Adel Al-Yahya, you said that it was interesting to listen to the position of your Western colleagues after your speech at the UN Security Council. What did you mean?
"Sergey Lavrov: They have once again signed off on disrespect for the main principle of the UN Charter, which establishes that the UN is based on the sovereign equality of states. What they are doing is aimed solely at subordinating everything, including the UN itself, to their selfish interests."
And the above idiocy from Miller is an example of what Lavrov said.
they could easily change out mr kirby, or miller for Pinocchio!!
I wonder how much his nose grew while he talked? Empire of Lies it is most certainly!
Thanks Karl. Lavrov again making his case powerfully. Here’s a link to the speech, apologies if it’s in here somewhere and I missed it.
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/07/17/watch-lavrov-at-un-on-avoiding-wwiii/
Lavrov quite rightly points out how the west looked the other way in regard to Kiev's persecution of Russian minorities. On the other hand , I don't recall Lavrov openly expressing concern about China's treatment of the Uyghurs either.
He did say what needed to be said regarding the US and UN. I expect that it will make little difference in the end , and realignment will come via economic collapse or the battlefield. I hope I am doubly wrong.
Could you just stop with the Uyghurs nonsense? Until jews stop mass slaughtering the Palestinian children and women, the opinions like yours smells strongly of hasbara.
Funny comment. You couldnt be more wrong if you tried. The Uyghurs probably dont see their situation as a nonsense. How you make the connection logical in that last sentence escapes me.
Much of the propaganda on the Uyghurs has emanated through ASPI which is a MIC funded "think tank" in Australia. Jaq James has produced a lengthy document but you can read up if interested at John Menadue's site "Pearls and Irritations" https://johnmenadue.com/uyghurs-for-sale-an-analysis-or-australian-strategic-disinformation/
Evidence based, not the nonsense that emanates out of ASPI. To be clear there's a push to have several parties investigated for treason. The current US led interference in Australian politics is totally unacceptable.
Thank you for the linked article. Gerrard White appears to be correct in his assessment of some contributors.
Back to the article you linked, I liked this paragraph "Passing off unsubstantiated allegations of forced labour as factual and substantial has ultimately meant it’s the Uyghurs who have suffered (an already economically disadvantaged ethnic group). You see, under international human rights law, every individual is entitled to enjoy the right to work and the right to access work-training programs; but not the Uyghurs, it would seem. When your ethnic group has the misfortune of being used by Western powerbrokers in a game of geopolitical one-upmanship, your group’s human rights can be up for the taking; especially when the game is rigged."
Although the link from article to his report didn't work for me, so I searched the site and found this:
https://johnmenadue.com/poverty-alleviation-is-not-forced-labour/
if anyone is interested.
Thank you for the excellent link. I seldom read from Western mainstream media now, as I've become aware of the hypocrisies and the way media can twist falsehoods into biased narratives.
This certainly helps counter the narrative that the US & the West that uses the Uyghur camps to criticize China. The new US VP Vance has just suggested that the US should emulate China's approach of constructing roads and airports in African nations, as opposed to engaging in exploitation and creating IMF debt. This indicates a glimmer of hope for a different strategy.
Agreed, let's hope the glimmer grows brighter.
This counts as a 'like' ;o)
There is nothing funny about your attempt at dismissing the Genocide of Palestinians. And what was the name of the main operative during the judeo-banderite coup d'etat in Kiev in 2014, which generated the ongoing war in Ukraine? -- Nuland-Kagan. This does not sound Chinese, does not it? The pest collaborated directly with the Ukrainian Nazi Party; she even decided who will become a prez of Ukraine. The judeo-banderite coup culminated in Odessa where the US besties burn alive dozens of civilians. That was a regular auto-da-fe, was not it, "Steve O?"
The judeo-banderite coup d'etat was followed by the bombardment of civilians in Donbas: 16 thousands human beings, including hundreds and hundreds of children, were murdered by Nuland-Kagan's chosen people, the banderites.
Try to stay on point. The war in Palestine and the war in Ukraine are run by the same people, and these people are not Chinese.
Nothing to add other than a BIG LIKE. This reply counts as a 'like', which I canna do any more ;o(.