Yesterday, 12 September, Russia held another ambassadorial roundtable on the settlement of the situation around Ukraine, the fifth on this specific topic.
I apologize in advance if my comment is a bit long. But I can't formulate my thoughts in three lines.
We in the West must be honest with ourselves and anyone who has spent their entire adult life intensively studying history and the background to geopolitics knows that everything that is said publicly in the West is a lie.
First of all, we must understand that history is not a sequence of episodes and nothing that happens is something that happens by chance. History is like a river. Only insurmountable obstacles steer this flow in other directions. A prominent example of this in the past was the resistance of the Soviet Union during the Second World War.
What is understood as "Nazism" is not something that is in the DNA of a particular nation.
At the root of this are entirely pragmatic considerations. Geopolitical endeavors require, among other things, the following:
1. money;
2. raw materials;
3. logistics;
4. allies and/or vassals;
5. people as executors.
In history, we can study various great powers. For example, the Roman, Spanish and British empires. Their conquests of foreign territories served to satisfy the greed of the nobility, the merchants, the manufacturers, the churches and, on a small scale, the sent and hired assassins who promised themselves personal enrichment.
See, for example, the East India Companies, Dutch East India Company, the Catholic Church, the royal houses and the common soldiers who were promised booty and foreign land in return for unrestrained murder. Etc.
In the case of France and the German Empire, I see a slight deviation from the pattern. As far as I know, the French war of conquest against Russia was primarily motivated by the idea of eliminating a major European power. From 1871 onwards, the German Empire became an economic, technological and military competitor to the stagnating British Empire. Germany had become a threat to the British economy on the world markets. Similar to how China is perceived by the US oligarchs today.
The aim of the First World War was to eliminate this German competition. The British Empire and the USA, which also had imperial ambitions with regard to Eurasia, were the organizers of the First World War. The goal was achieved. Germany was militarily defeated and terribly bled dry by the Treaty of Versailles. But during this time, the Tsarist regime was overthrown and a power emerged in Russia that could not be controlled by the Anglo-Saxons. Many people do not know that during this time, for example, a US military expeditionary force invaded Siberia and was defeated by the Russians.
The conditions were secretly created in Germany to bring a powerful regime to power there and to equip it militarily so that Germany would go to war against Russia and defeat it. At the time, the Anglo-Saxons were transferring organization, money, raw materials and production on a gigantic scale. Germany alone, under the conditions of the Treaty of Versailles (dictate), would not have been able to do this in such a short time. The USA had three goals at once in order to achieve dominance over Eurasia. The destruction of Russia and Germany and the weakening of Great Britain.
The objectives were not fully achieved. The Soviet Union was not defeated and it became a major military power, with a large part of Europe occupied by the Soviet Union. The "Cold War" until 2014 was basically the 3rd World War to eliminate the Soviet Union, which later became Russia. With tens of millions of deaths worldwide. Since 2014 we have been experiencing the 4th World War.
But from 1871 until today, it has actually been a single war for world domination and the riches of Eurasia as target number 1.
All empires of the past were ideologically endowed with the exaltation of their own nation. Just as was later the case in Germany and the USA. A Spaniard, a Dutchman, a Briton, a German, a US-American were morally, evolutionarily etc. made into superior beings who had every right to kill the "apes" of other countries. Nazism is nothing new. Germany just practiced it very openly and monstrously.
karl, thanks for your summation at the end.. i agree with you... lavrovs speech here is not as strongly and well worded as usual.. that is my take.. and yet, it touches on all the points that need to be said.. will those in the west listen? i doubt it...
The arrogance, stupidity and barbarity of the western powers is stunning. They've been funding, arming and perpetuating war at every turn.
Thanks for posting, Karl.
It's so scary witnessing this insanity.
They are living in another era, haven’t yet realised that power and capability have shifted...
It's true. Their minds are stuck in the colonialist and imperialist worldview.
That last paragraph was beautiful. Thank you Karlof.
I apologize in advance if my comment is a bit long. But I can't formulate my thoughts in three lines.
We in the West must be honest with ourselves and anyone who has spent their entire adult life intensively studying history and the background to geopolitics knows that everything that is said publicly in the West is a lie.
First of all, we must understand that history is not a sequence of episodes and nothing that happens is something that happens by chance. History is like a river. Only insurmountable obstacles steer this flow in other directions. A prominent example of this in the past was the resistance of the Soviet Union during the Second World War.
What is understood as "Nazism" is not something that is in the DNA of a particular nation.
At the root of this are entirely pragmatic considerations. Geopolitical endeavors require, among other things, the following:
1. money;
2. raw materials;
3. logistics;
4. allies and/or vassals;
5. people as executors.
In history, we can study various great powers. For example, the Roman, Spanish and British empires. Their conquests of foreign territories served to satisfy the greed of the nobility, the merchants, the manufacturers, the churches and, on a small scale, the sent and hired assassins who promised themselves personal enrichment.
See, for example, the East India Companies, Dutch East India Company, the Catholic Church, the royal houses and the common soldiers who were promised booty and foreign land in return for unrestrained murder. Etc.
In the case of France and the German Empire, I see a slight deviation from the pattern. As far as I know, the French war of conquest against Russia was primarily motivated by the idea of eliminating a major European power. From 1871 onwards, the German Empire became an economic, technological and military competitor to the stagnating British Empire. Germany had become a threat to the British economy on the world markets. Similar to how China is perceived by the US oligarchs today.
The aim of the First World War was to eliminate this German competition. The British Empire and the USA, which also had imperial ambitions with regard to Eurasia, were the organizers of the First World War. The goal was achieved. Germany was militarily defeated and terribly bled dry by the Treaty of Versailles. But during this time, the Tsarist regime was overthrown and a power emerged in Russia that could not be controlled by the Anglo-Saxons. Many people do not know that during this time, for example, a US military expeditionary force invaded Siberia and was defeated by the Russians.
The conditions were secretly created in Germany to bring a powerful regime to power there and to equip it militarily so that Germany would go to war against Russia and defeat it. At the time, the Anglo-Saxons were transferring organization, money, raw materials and production on a gigantic scale. Germany alone, under the conditions of the Treaty of Versailles (dictate), would not have been able to do this in such a short time. The USA had three goals at once in order to achieve dominance over Eurasia. The destruction of Russia and Germany and the weakening of Great Britain.
The objectives were not fully achieved. The Soviet Union was not defeated and it became a major military power, with a large part of Europe occupied by the Soviet Union. The "Cold War" until 2014 was basically the 3rd World War to eliminate the Soviet Union, which later became Russia. With tens of millions of deaths worldwide. Since 2014 we have been experiencing the 4th World War.
But from 1871 until today, it has actually been a single war for world domination and the riches of Eurasia as target number 1.
All empires of the past were ideologically endowed with the exaltation of their own nation. Just as was later the case in Germany and the USA. A Spaniard, a Dutchman, a Briton, a German, a US-American were morally, evolutionarily etc. made into superior beings who had every right to kill the "apes" of other countries. Nazism is nothing new. Germany just practiced it very openly and monstrously.
Succinct, perceptive, plausible👏👏👏
That was an interesting read, mate. What would you say about Napoleon?
A well written three lines!
karl, thanks for your summation at the end.. i agree with you... lavrovs speech here is not as strongly and well worded as usual.. that is my take.. and yet, it touches on all the points that need to be said.. will those in the west listen? i doubt it...