Yes, a bit strange that: 'we have nothing to complain about' when clearly Russia has everything to complain about. I think maybe he was thinking of 'being plaintive' ? The Russians certainly have nothing to be plaintive about, they've done no wrong.
You know in Lavrov's shoes I would have taken every opportunity to declare two things upon the accusation of having invaded sovereign nation etc.. well three things...
1. No nation currently engage upon violating sovereignty has any right to raise the issue with Russia and that means the USA above all nations in the world has to shut up.
2. Russia's invasion of Ukraine was a pre-emptive strike well recognised as a 'right' of threatened nations. And who has been big on promoting this right? Yep. USA.
3. Russia in any case swiftly withdrew behind Donbas States borders and adopted a posture of helping them to defend themselves. And to this day those State have not fully recovered their territories and that of itself is proof positive of a Civil War of ethnic cleansing: what say about that?
I am sure the 'nothing to complain about' remark reflects a tanslation problem. Just as the "pumping" Ukraine with weapons-instead of pumping weapons into Ukraine or another equivalent formulation- reflects not a misunderstanding of physics but the reality that translation is an art, and a very skilful one, rather than a science.
As to the content of the interview: if this hasn't been aired I don't believe that it will be. It needs considerable editing to turn it into anything acceptable to the criminals running the media and the empire.
In the meantime, many thanks for this transcript- it speaks for itself. Russia's case is and always has been unassailable.
I seem to recall the presstitute being one of the "60 Minutes" team, so perhaps that's where some of it will appear. I dissed our Dish so no longer get that sort of broadcast. I thought of revisiting the translation, but other bugs needed to be cleaned from the system first, which is now done.
Off topic but vaguely relevant as we discuss criminal empires and their vassals
and grr might appreciate:
"In a long-awaited decision, the Federal Court has ruled that the measures Prime Minister Justin Trudeau invoked under the Emergencies Act were unreasonable and unconstitutional.
The decision follows an application for judicial review launched by the Canadian Constitution Foundation, the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, and several other applicants in 2022 after the emergency measures were used to end the Freedom Convoy protests in Ottawa.
The measures controversially allowed the government to freeze the bank accounts of protesters, conscript tow truck drivers, and arrest people for participating in assemblies the government deemed illegal."
"nothing to complain about" seems like a translation artifact. Perhaps "nothing to apologise for" is the intended context but was lost in expression and translation.
Good to see Lavrov being clear and concise and standing his ground. Affirm the '47 borders now and enable Palestinian development and the reclamation of stolen lands by all since '47. That is the solution IMO.
My favourite ‘quip’ must be this: “Question: It seems that there are many Iranian attacks around the world and they are supported. - Sergey Lavrov: I have noticed several Israeli attacks.” Thank you, Karl.
Märkligt att inte Lavrov nämnde att de 140 natiionerna i FN:s generalförsamling INTE "fördömde" Rysslands intrång i Ukraina! Istället slutade väst:s förslag till resolution med "beklagar".
I meant no criticism of your yeoman work in bringing these transcripts to us. Nor of the much appreciated assistance of the various trnslation services that well use, gratefully.
But there was a reason why it took a long time before Constance Garnett brought the great masterpiece of C19th novels- the Brothers Karamazov- to the attention of anglophones, years after the author and his contempraries and to a great extent their society had passed away.
thanks karl... the cbs lady is way out of her league... lavrov is running circles around her and dominated the conversation! there are some typos in the translation.. perhaps the one that stood out for you 'we have no complaints' is not properly translated?? this one i quote is obviously wrong - "Sergey Lavrov: We strongly condemned Israel's terrorist attack on October 7 .."
"It was on Ukrainian territory that it was planned to deploy weapons prohibited by the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles, from which the Americans withdrew. They wanted their hands free to use such weapons."
Once again, Russia points out those Aegis Ashore installations in Poland and Romania. As I've said since April, 2022, those are the primary reason for the Russian SMO. Putin and Lavrov may have wanted a simpler resolution in March-April, 2022 - but the General Staff wants those installations countered, if not gone. And I remain convinced that is the current Russian plan: to counter those installations by taking Ukraine off the board permanently and establishing a Military District in western Ukraine.
But of course, I'm always wrong, as everyone keeps telling me. So perhaps I shouldn't mention Ukraine any more anywhere. I should start talking about Palestine - where everyone also tells me I am wrong.
In fact, I'm deciding right now. I was going to spend a lot of effort going through my Palestine and Israel notes and texts and covering all this in a future Substack. I think I will simply abandon that effort. While it might be nice to be proven correct once the situation is resolved, and have that on the record, the effort involved seems to be not worth the result and the abuse I would undoubtedly take before the resolution becomes evident.
I also expect one "grr" to come plowing in a response to this post to do nothing but insult me over my Covid vaccines. It would be nice if Karl would block that individual from commenting as he has nothing else to say but insults to me. So everyone shouldn't mind if I mute this thread now. So I won't read further comments in this thread.
Richard your sensitivity, though understandable, simply plays into the hands of the fascists. It is not you that they hate but the truth, which you are very good at explaining.
I believe that anyone who looks honestly at the situation in Ukraine or Palestine is going to be subject to insults and smears by the scum that regards working for 'the man' as the highest honour.
Most of these trolls don't need to be paid. They serve the imperialists out of their love for power- it is a political expression of deep-seated sado-masochistic obsessions.
I don't "insult" you because you cowardly bowed down to tyranny and accepted the experimental mRNA poison, multiple times (even though that is a good enough reason). I criticise you because you have on multiple times claimed to be an anarchist, which is a lie, a bogus claim. No anarchist would ever go along with the tyranny that was the planned fake 'pandemic' and it's attendant DARPA originated bio-weapon counter measures.
Anyhoo you won't be missed and will soon be dead or in an ICU. Bye bye, thanks for visiting.
Your vitriol and atrocious use of the English language is unpleasant enough but to use it to insult and ‘straw-man’ a valued and appreciated commenter paints you as a troll who doesn’t realize that he’s pissing his own cheerios. Publicly. This is not the MoA bar which tolerates such behavior- and I say this with deep respect for its host Bernard and an incredible commentariat of ’barflies’ some of whom enjoy brawling with wankers like you. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
Märkligt att inte Lavrov nämnde att de 140 nationerna i FN:s generalförsamling INTE "fördömde" Rysslands intrång i Ukraina! Istället slutade väst:s förslag till resolution med "beklagar".
Yes, a bit strange that: 'we have nothing to complain about' when clearly Russia has everything to complain about. I think maybe he was thinking of 'being plaintive' ? The Russians certainly have nothing to be plaintive about, they've done no wrong.
You know in Lavrov's shoes I would have taken every opportunity to declare two things upon the accusation of having invaded sovereign nation etc.. well three things...
1. No nation currently engage upon violating sovereignty has any right to raise the issue with Russia and that means the USA above all nations in the world has to shut up.
2. Russia's invasion of Ukraine was a pre-emptive strike well recognised as a 'right' of threatened nations. And who has been big on promoting this right? Yep. USA.
3. Russia in any case swiftly withdrew behind Donbas States borders and adopted a posture of helping them to defend themselves. And to this day those State have not fully recovered their territories and that of itself is proof positive of a Civil War of ethnic cleansing: what say about that?
I am sure the 'nothing to complain about' remark reflects a tanslation problem. Just as the "pumping" Ukraine with weapons-instead of pumping weapons into Ukraine or another equivalent formulation- reflects not a misunderstanding of physics but the reality that translation is an art, and a very skilful one, rather than a science.
As to the content of the interview: if this hasn't been aired I don't believe that it will be. It needs considerable editing to turn it into anything acceptable to the criminals running the media and the empire.
In the meantime, many thanks for this transcript- it speaks for itself. Russia's case is and always has been unassailable.
I seem to recall the presstitute being one of the "60 Minutes" team, so perhaps that's where some of it will appear. I dissed our Dish so no longer get that sort of broadcast. I thought of revisiting the translation, but other bugs needed to be cleaned from the system first, which is now done.
Off topic but vaguely relevant as we discuss criminal empires and their vassals
and grr might appreciate:
"In a long-awaited decision, the Federal Court has ruled that the measures Prime Minister Justin Trudeau invoked under the Emergencies Act were unreasonable and unconstitutional.
The decision follows an application for judicial review launched by the Canadian Constitution Foundation, the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, and several other applicants in 2022 after the emergency measures were used to end the Freedom Convoy protests in Ottawa.
The measures controversially allowed the government to freeze the bank accounts of protesters, conscript tow truck drivers, and arrest people for participating in assemblies the government deemed illegal."
From https://t.me/zero_anthropology/12321
Now known as DISASTER X after he changed his handle :)) a timely choice.
"nothing to complain about" seems like a translation artifact. Perhaps "nothing to apologise for" is the intended context but was lost in expression and translation.
Good to see Lavrov being clear and concise and standing his ground. Affirm the '47 borders now and enable Palestinian development and the reclamation of stolen lands by all since '47. That is the solution IMO.
My favourite ‘quip’ must be this: “Question: It seems that there are many Iranian attacks around the world and they are supported. - Sergey Lavrov: I have noticed several Israeli attacks.” Thank you, Karl.
Thanks for posting this, Karl. I have so much respect for the degree of patience Lavrov has and, of course, his responses that educate so well.
Märkligt att inte Lavrov nämnde att de 140 natiionerna i FN:s generalförsamling INTE "fördömde" Rysslands intrång i Ukraina! Istället slutade väst:s förslag till resolution med "beklagar".
IMO, by that point, Lavrov had reached hie threshold of patience, was miffed, and missed an opportunity to make a better reply.
I meant no criticism of your yeoman work in bringing these transcripts to us. Nor of the much appreciated assistance of the various trnslation services that well use, gratefully.
But there was a reason why it took a long time before Constance Garnett brought the great masterpiece of C19th novels- the Brothers Karamazov- to the attention of anglophones, years after the author and his contempraries and to a great extent their society had passed away.
I didn't register any critique from you.
thanks karl... the cbs lady is way out of her league... lavrov is running circles around her and dominated the conversation! there are some typos in the translation.. perhaps the one that stood out for you 'we have no complaints' is not properly translated?? this one i quote is obviously wrong - "Sergey Lavrov: We strongly condemned Israel's terrorist attack on October 7 .."
"It was on Ukrainian territory that it was planned to deploy weapons prohibited by the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles, from which the Americans withdrew. They wanted their hands free to use such weapons."
Once again, Russia points out those Aegis Ashore installations in Poland and Romania. As I've said since April, 2022, those are the primary reason for the Russian SMO. Putin and Lavrov may have wanted a simpler resolution in March-April, 2022 - but the General Staff wants those installations countered, if not gone. And I remain convinced that is the current Russian plan: to counter those installations by taking Ukraine off the board permanently and establishing a Military District in western Ukraine.
But of course, I'm always wrong, as everyone keeps telling me. So perhaps I shouldn't mention Ukraine any more anywhere. I should start talking about Palestine - where everyone also tells me I am wrong.
In fact, I'm deciding right now. I was going to spend a lot of effort going through my Palestine and Israel notes and texts and covering all this in a future Substack. I think I will simply abandon that effort. While it might be nice to be proven correct once the situation is resolved, and have that on the record, the effort involved seems to be not worth the result and the abuse I would undoubtedly take before the resolution becomes evident.
I also expect one "grr" to come plowing in a response to this post to do nothing but insult me over my Covid vaccines. It would be nice if Karl would block that individual from commenting as he has nothing else to say but insults to me. So everyone shouldn't mind if I mute this thread now. So I won't read further comments in this thread.
Richard your sensitivity, though understandable, simply plays into the hands of the fascists. It is not you that they hate but the truth, which you are very good at explaining.
I believe that anyone who looks honestly at the situation in Ukraine or Palestine is going to be subject to insults and smears by the scum that regards working for 'the man' as the highest honour.
Most of these trolls don't need to be paid. They serve the imperialists out of their love for power- it is a political expression of deep-seated sado-masochistic obsessions.
I don't "insult" you because you cowardly bowed down to tyranny and accepted the experimental mRNA poison, multiple times (even though that is a good enough reason). I criticise you because you have on multiple times claimed to be an anarchist, which is a lie, a bogus claim. No anarchist would ever go along with the tyranny that was the planned fake 'pandemic' and it's attendant DARPA originated bio-weapon counter measures.
Anyhoo you won't be missed and will soon be dead or in an ICU. Bye bye, thanks for visiting.
Your vitriol and atrocious use of the English language is unpleasant enough but to use it to insult and ‘straw-man’ a valued and appreciated commenter paints you as a troll who doesn’t realize that he’s pissing his own cheerios. Publicly. This is not the MoA bar which tolerates such behavior- and I say this with deep respect for its host Bernard and an incredible commentariat of ’barflies’ some of whom enjoy brawling with wankers like you. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
EAD wordsmith. RSH is derided by many as a blowhard and a know it all that knows nothing. And now we know he's not the anarchist he has claimed to be.
But hey, if you want to lick his arse, go for it.
Anyhoo? Lol 😂. The genius keeps setting linguistic standards!
Märkligt att inte Lavrov nämnde att de 140 nationerna i FN:s generalförsamling INTE "fördömde" Rysslands intrång i Ukraina! Istället slutade väst:s förslag till resolution med "beklagar".