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"...It’s also a message to Team Biden and the US Zionists that they won’t be allowed to triumph. The point that the problem must be solved or it will continue to fester and cause future destabilization is also key and yet another signal to the Zionists that their project is dead and that a solution will be found..."

As we all know - the impracticability of these policies doesn't matter in the USA. There this is all about election campaigns- fundraising and vote harvesting. And if that means that Palestinian and eventually Israeli kids are going to have to die every day, and the violence is just going to get worse and worse,,,well, too bad.

The baby hasn't been born in the Middle East who mattered a damn compared with the really important issues such as who will win the House, the Senate or the Presidency.

' There will be no solution from the American side because nobody is looking for one, nobody wants one. As to the MIC-God forbid that peace should break out-the economy would fall apart in a week.

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Thanks again, excellent info Karl.

Lavrov says "We will support the Arab solution to this very difficult issue." - We'll see.

Re "and is clearly a strong message to the Zionists that their project is opposed by more than just Russia." - I don't understand what this matters - Israel, especially the extreme right wingers in power now have known this for decades already. It just seems a redundant point today. Despite knowing how widespread the opposition was it has made no difference to these Zionists or even the moderate Israeli Jews.

The fact is nothing has really changed - there's another new war going on, and the US remains the overwhelming power - whatever the Arab nations "decide" in coming days will like in 2002 make zero difference as usual.

So if as you Karl and others incl Russia say the US is the cause, the big problem no one has yet provided a solution - even a theoretical one. The aircraft carrier groups are thee, the bases are still there and they are all locked and loaded. Situation normal. Lavrov can say whatever he likes. Nothing has changed (yet).

And (imo) a ceasefire cannot change anything either regarding the bigger original Palestinian-Israeli conflict or starting "peace/settlement" negotiations. Just like the US Neocons, the Zionists are agreement incapable --- the only solution is in fact Force. Overwhelming unrelenting Military Force against Israel and the US / NATO ... followed by a one state solution Palestine.

I also think Lavrov Russia is very wrong over 242 -- it's ancient history now -- anyone who voted for it are long dead. Time to let these failures go forever. Time to start over with a blank slate and clear eyed factual truths and reason and without the old Colonial powers manipulations from the 40s and 60s. Cheers

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