"...It’s also a message to Team Biden and the US Zionists that they won’t be allowed to triumph. The point that the problem must be solved or it will continue to fester and cause future destabilization is also key and yet another signal to the Zionists that their project is dead and that a solution will be found..."
As we all know - the impracticability of these policies doesn't matter in the USA. There this is all about election campaigns- fundraising and vote harvesting. And if that means that Palestinian and eventually Israeli kids are going to have to die every day, and the violence is just going to get worse and worse,,,well, too bad.
The baby hasn't been born in the Middle East who mattered a damn compared with the really important issues such as who will win the House, the Senate or the Presidency.
' There will be no solution from the American side because nobody is looking for one, nobody wants one. As to the MIC-God forbid that peace should break out-the economy would fall apart in a week.
I believe that's the most likes by any comment because it's 100% correct. And that's the rather sorrowful truth. Those forces were correctly called the Merchants of Death when the drive to keep the USA out of wars was actually making progress during the 1930s and the connections between those Merchants and the Banksters was made clear to the populace.
I had to chuckle at your final paragraph--I'd read on some finance site that US GDP numbers include military spending....no wonder we all feel so rich these days.
And, speaking of the Presidency, I read where the Muslim voters in Michigan (a swing state that the DEMs cannot afford to lose) have taken umbrage with the WH support of IL. Joe's conundrum: Support IL and please Wall Street or worry about losing Muslim voter support.
BTW, the MoA comments that I hold in high regard are yours, Karls, and only a few others.
Nov 4, 2023·edited Nov 4, 2023Liked by Karl Sanchez
Thanks again, excellent info Karl.
Lavrov says "We will support the Arab solution to this very difficult issue." - We'll see.
Re "and is clearly a strong message to the Zionists that their project is opposed by more than just Russia." - I don't understand what this matters - Israel, especially the extreme right wingers in power now have known this for decades already. It just seems a redundant point today. Despite knowing how widespread the opposition was it has made no difference to these Zionists or even the moderate Israeli Jews.
The fact is nothing has really changed - there's another new war going on, and the US remains the overwhelming power - whatever the Arab nations "decide" in coming days will like in 2002 make zero difference as usual.
So if as you Karl and others incl Russia say the US is the cause, the big problem no one has yet provided a solution - even a theoretical one. The aircraft carrier groups are thee, the bases are still there and they are all locked and loaded. Situation normal. Lavrov can say whatever he likes. Nothing has changed (yet).
And (imo) a ceasefire cannot change anything either regarding the bigger original Palestinian-Israeli conflict or starting "peace/settlement" negotiations. Just like the US Neocons, the Zionists are agreement incapable --- the only solution is in fact Force. Overwhelming unrelenting Military Force against Israel and the US / NATO ... followed by a one state solution Palestine.
I also think Lavrov Russia is very wrong over 242 -- it's ancient history now -- anyone who voted for it are long dead. Time to let these failures go forever. Time to start over with a blank slate and clear eyed factual truths and reason and without the old Colonial powers manipulations from the 40s and 60s. Cheers
Yes Sean, there're many aspects to the overall problem of Outlaw US Empire Hegemony, lots of facets. We do know how it functions and there are theoretical bases for bringing it down that have been proposed, with dedollarization being the one area actively being worked upon. One of my aims as a historian was to find the roots of our shared problem so they can be uprooted and the Problem Tree destroyed. At MoA, I'm sure you've read psychohistorian's constant mantra about the real enemy which is 100% correct. Dr. Hudson and others have proven that's the case, but not enough know that scholarship, which is one of the points I've promoted over the last 10 years. I have my own hypothesis that's been articulated here, at MoA, and at my VK as to how to solve the problem, but it's not anyway near instant and requires hard work and global solidarity within the RoW Bloc. The Palestinian's woes will only be solved when the hegemons that torture them are removed, and that will also take time, hard work, and global solidarity.
One big step was accomplished by Hamas, and that was removing the Empire from the settlement process--what little credibility it had is now kaput, and as Lavrov said the locals will be the ones to provide the solution. Will the crisis escalate into regional war? That remains possible. Crooke's explanation for the depopulating of Northern Palestine is valid and most important. The economic repercussions myself and others have written about are very important in the long run. This is indeed a siege on three fronts with only one party having the backing of the world.
Yes it is so difficult to consciously separate the Israel/regional problems of the last 100 years and the global issues of the US/West power.
I don't what you mean are pointing to re - " Crooke's explanation for the depopulating of Northern Palestine is valid and most important." ? I've read his latest you posted but can't seem to connect it.
Thanks Karl, and fingers crossed something better and sustainable can come from this escalation by both Israel and Hamas in early Oct and since.
They don't bother; they just ignore him as they can't beat him and they know it. Imagine the all the younger diplomates he inspires. There are interviews made with some of them that I've read but never posted for others showing their talent. When Lavrov retires, there will be capable people to fill his shoes.
"...It’s also a message to Team Biden and the US Zionists that they won’t be allowed to triumph. The point that the problem must be solved or it will continue to fester and cause future destabilization is also key and yet another signal to the Zionists that their project is dead and that a solution will be found..."
As we all know - the impracticability of these policies doesn't matter in the USA. There this is all about election campaigns- fundraising and vote harvesting. And if that means that Palestinian and eventually Israeli kids are going to have to die every day, and the violence is just going to get worse and worse,,,well, too bad.
The baby hasn't been born in the Middle East who mattered a damn compared with the really important issues such as who will win the House, the Senate or the Presidency.
' There will be no solution from the American side because nobody is looking for one, nobody wants one. As to the MIC-God forbid that peace should break out-the economy would fall apart in a week.
I believe that's the most likes by any comment because it's 100% correct. And that's the rather sorrowful truth. Those forces were correctly called the Merchants of Death when the drive to keep the USA out of wars was actually making progress during the 1930s and the connections between those Merchants and the Banksters was made clear to the populace.
I had to chuckle at your final paragraph--I'd read on some finance site that US GDP numbers include military spending....no wonder we all feel so rich these days.
And, speaking of the Presidency, I read where the Muslim voters in Michigan (a swing state that the DEMs cannot afford to lose) have taken umbrage with the WH support of IL. Joe's conundrum: Support IL and please Wall Street or worry about losing Muslim voter support.
BTW, the MoA comments that I hold in high regard are yours, Karls, and only a few others.
Thanks again, excellent info Karl.
Lavrov says "We will support the Arab solution to this very difficult issue." - We'll see.
Re "and is clearly a strong message to the Zionists that their project is opposed by more than just Russia." - I don't understand what this matters - Israel, especially the extreme right wingers in power now have known this for decades already. It just seems a redundant point today. Despite knowing how widespread the opposition was it has made no difference to these Zionists or even the moderate Israeli Jews.
The fact is nothing has really changed - there's another new war going on, and the US remains the overwhelming power - whatever the Arab nations "decide" in coming days will like in 2002 make zero difference as usual.
So if as you Karl and others incl Russia say the US is the cause, the big problem no one has yet provided a solution - even a theoretical one. The aircraft carrier groups are thee, the bases are still there and they are all locked and loaded. Situation normal. Lavrov can say whatever he likes. Nothing has changed (yet).
And (imo) a ceasefire cannot change anything either regarding the bigger original Palestinian-Israeli conflict or starting "peace/settlement" negotiations. Just like the US Neocons, the Zionists are agreement incapable --- the only solution is in fact Force. Overwhelming unrelenting Military Force against Israel and the US / NATO ... followed by a one state solution Palestine.
I also think Lavrov Russia is very wrong over 242 -- it's ancient history now -- anyone who voted for it are long dead. Time to let these failures go forever. Time to start over with a blank slate and clear eyed factual truths and reason and without the old Colonial powers manipulations from the 40s and 60s. Cheers
Yes Sean, there're many aspects to the overall problem of Outlaw US Empire Hegemony, lots of facets. We do know how it functions and there are theoretical bases for bringing it down that have been proposed, with dedollarization being the one area actively being worked upon. One of my aims as a historian was to find the roots of our shared problem so they can be uprooted and the Problem Tree destroyed. At MoA, I'm sure you've read psychohistorian's constant mantra about the real enemy which is 100% correct. Dr. Hudson and others have proven that's the case, but not enough know that scholarship, which is one of the points I've promoted over the last 10 years. I have my own hypothesis that's been articulated here, at MoA, and at my VK as to how to solve the problem, but it's not anyway near instant and requires hard work and global solidarity within the RoW Bloc. The Palestinian's woes will only be solved when the hegemons that torture them are removed, and that will also take time, hard work, and global solidarity.
One big step was accomplished by Hamas, and that was removing the Empire from the settlement process--what little credibility it had is now kaput, and as Lavrov said the locals will be the ones to provide the solution. Will the crisis escalate into regional war? That remains possible. Crooke's explanation for the depopulating of Northern Palestine is valid and most important. The economic repercussions myself and others have written about are very important in the long run. This is indeed a siege on three fronts with only one party having the backing of the world.
Yes it is so difficult to consciously separate the Israel/regional problems of the last 100 years and the global issues of the US/West power.
I don't what you mean are pointing to re - " Crooke's explanation for the depopulating of Northern Palestine is valid and most important." ? I've read his latest you posted but can't seem to connect it.
Thanks Karl, and fingers crossed something better and sustainable can come from this escalation by both Israel and Hamas in early Oct and since.
thanks karl... the usa is the problem.. get the usa out of israel and things would be infinitely better.. that is a hard nut to crack..
Nail on the head. God, how I love that guy.
I have not kept track of how the MSM in the US and Europe is likely to misrepresent him.
They don't bother; they just ignore him as they can't beat him and they know it. Imagine the all the younger diplomates he inspires. There are interviews made with some of them that I've read but never posted for others showing their talent. When Lavrov retires, there will be capable people to fill his shoes.