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"i can't see trump pulling the usa out of nato."

Me neither. But I can see a few nations quitting sometime before 2030.

I cannot see Russia achieving any of its Ukraine SMO goals for years. Or it's broader strategic security treaty goals with the US hegemony for decades at this rate.

Trenin like many others, Lavrov included, are speaking academic hypotheticals and often unachievable hyperbole.

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yes and no... i think it is complicated... one has to express their viewpoint,but also realize how practical or pragmatic it is when you have a sworn enemy trying to destroy your ideals and viewpoints...

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Which means what exactly? Stop saying two things at the same time. What is that you really think. What you said james, says nothing. Everyone already knows it is complicated, me included. Yes to what, and No to what? Be clear, because you are not so far. You are sitting on a fence.

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i am not sitting on a fence, but it is a question of how much writing i want to engage in here... as it presently stands - not much.. if i knew you in person, i'd be happy to talk about it over coffee.. cheers james

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"but it is a question of how much writing i want to engage in here."

Then why engage at all?

This is an online discussion and was when you first engaged in it.

You are not going to get to have coffee with anyone. Your excuse is irrational, but you are free to do and say whatever you want. But the disingenuous (cop out) attitude is noted. You are sitting on a fence!

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have the last word, lol...

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