Before the final events of the overall meeting of the ASEAN, the East Asia Summit (EAS) and the ASEAN Regional Forum (ARF) remained to occur, Lavrov made his remarks and answered media questions following the Russia-ASEAN meeting.
"But today's West is not ready and does not know how to listen and hear. He is not ready and does not know how to negotiate. Diplomacy in the West as a means of doing business between states has given way to ultimatums, demands and punishments of the disobedient through illegitimate, unilateral sanctions.
I would not like all this "legacy" to be transferred to the Asia-Pacific region. In talking to ASEAN countries, we felt that they are aware of the risks involved. In any case, they are supposed to. They have a responsibility to uphold the foundations of the Bali Treaty and the principles that underpin the decades-old architecture."
I have been thinking. Various analysts I hold in high esteem say that the USA is weakening Russia and China through arms races, wars, economic terror and regime change on their respective peripheries. Fiscally, economically, demographically and in the progress of their technological development. This may be the case on the surface. But, there is a "but".
All of these US activities require gigantic amounts of financial, industrial, intellectual, human and material resources. All for the sole purpose of subjugating recalcitrant nations. All these resources are irretrievably lost for a positive development of the civilian stock in the economy and infrastructure and for the social tasks at home. The US budget deficit, which continues to grow rapidly, can no longer be solved, so that only a radical debt cut to zero can be expected. An unprecedented process with epic consequences that could only be realized through an event of epic proportions. The collapse of the USA, for example, could be it.
I therefore think that the USA (in its current form) is nearing its end even without the hot world war against Russia, China and Iran. Russia and China may suffer damage. But the fact that they are endeavoring to protect and promote their populations at home and work cooperatively abroad, pursuing the concept of genuine partnership among themselves instead of relying on subjugation as in the West, makes the outcome of this geopolitical process clear to me.
I was positively surprised that India and China are now withdrawing their military from the disputed region. The agreement between Saudi Arabia and Iran is a great thing. Yes, the concept of respecting the sovereignty of all countries and non-interference in the internal affairs of other countries is being pursued. But it seems that behind the scenes, this is making it possible to find very positive solutions to the countries' previously very difficult problems. In the long term, this certainly includes the problem of the South China Sea.
Another aspect is that in Russia and China, the state was able to assert itself against the oligarchy. Unthinkable in the USA. Everything there is built on the oligarchy.
The only frightening thing is the possibility of death and destruction through war. Let alone a nuclear war, even if it is triggered "accidentally". But apart from that, I can see the outcome of this development.
The "win-win" business model is a smart factor. By paying for the purchase of goods and resources with the construction of comprehensive and modern infrastructure in poor regions, China and Russia are laying the foundations for local industrialization. Let's think 100 years ahead. Nigeria and Zimbabwe, for example, with modern infrastructure and their own energy supply, refine their raw materials into high-quality goods themselves.
Another positive factor. This concept also results in a transfer of technology to these countries. I have also noticed that African students, for example, are once again studying in Russia. When they return to their countries, they can become an intellectual factor. I don't think that in 20 years' time anyone will voluntarily want to go to the shitholes of former NATO Europe or the USA. The opening ceremony of the so-called Olympics has once again clearly shown that Europe is falling apart and is doomed. In every respect.
There's little to add to your comment. One major factor is the Outlaw US Empire's debt is the oligarchy's wealth, so that cutting to debt also cuts the oligarchy's wealth, and that's the main reason why you won't see that being done voluntarily; rather, it will be forced.
The critical point now is for Asia to reject NATO's attempt to establish itself there. But the bigger likely future battleground will be in Africa. The Empire is like a Ponzi Scheme; it must constantly add plunder from other sources as its former sources are consumed.
thanks karl..
"But today's West is not ready and does not know how to listen and hear. He is not ready and does not know how to negotiate. Diplomacy in the West as a means of doing business between states has given way to ultimatums, demands and punishments of the disobedient through illegitimate, unilateral sanctions.
I would not like all this "legacy" to be transferred to the Asia-Pacific region. In talking to ASEAN countries, we felt that they are aware of the risks involved. In any case, they are supposed to. They have a responsibility to uphold the foundations of the Bali Treaty and the principles that underpin the decades-old architecture."
I have been thinking. Various analysts I hold in high esteem say that the USA is weakening Russia and China through arms races, wars, economic terror and regime change on their respective peripheries. Fiscally, economically, demographically and in the progress of their technological development. This may be the case on the surface. But, there is a "but".
All of these US activities require gigantic amounts of financial, industrial, intellectual, human and material resources. All for the sole purpose of subjugating recalcitrant nations. All these resources are irretrievably lost for a positive development of the civilian stock in the economy and infrastructure and for the social tasks at home. The US budget deficit, which continues to grow rapidly, can no longer be solved, so that only a radical debt cut to zero can be expected. An unprecedented process with epic consequences that could only be realized through an event of epic proportions. The collapse of the USA, for example, could be it.
I therefore think that the USA (in its current form) is nearing its end even without the hot world war against Russia, China and Iran. Russia and China may suffer damage. But the fact that they are endeavoring to protect and promote their populations at home and work cooperatively abroad, pursuing the concept of genuine partnership among themselves instead of relying on subjugation as in the West, makes the outcome of this geopolitical process clear to me.
I was positively surprised that India and China are now withdrawing their military from the disputed region. The agreement between Saudi Arabia and Iran is a great thing. Yes, the concept of respecting the sovereignty of all countries and non-interference in the internal affairs of other countries is being pursued. But it seems that behind the scenes, this is making it possible to find very positive solutions to the countries' previously very difficult problems. In the long term, this certainly includes the problem of the South China Sea.
Another aspect is that in Russia and China, the state was able to assert itself against the oligarchy. Unthinkable in the USA. Everything there is built on the oligarchy.
The only frightening thing is the possibility of death and destruction through war. Let alone a nuclear war, even if it is triggered "accidentally". But apart from that, I can see the outcome of this development.
The "win-win" business model is a smart factor. By paying for the purchase of goods and resources with the construction of comprehensive and modern infrastructure in poor regions, China and Russia are laying the foundations for local industrialization. Let's think 100 years ahead. Nigeria and Zimbabwe, for example, with modern infrastructure and their own energy supply, refine their raw materials into high-quality goods themselves.
Another positive factor. This concept also results in a transfer of technology to these countries. I have also noticed that African students, for example, are once again studying in Russia. When they return to their countries, they can become an intellectual factor. I don't think that in 20 years' time anyone will voluntarily want to go to the shitholes of former NATO Europe or the USA. The opening ceremony of the so-called Olympics has once again clearly shown that Europe is falling apart and is doomed. In every respect.
There's little to add to your comment. One major factor is the Outlaw US Empire's debt is the oligarchy's wealth, so that cutting to debt also cuts the oligarchy's wealth, and that's the main reason why you won't see that being done voluntarily; rather, it will be forced.
The critical point now is for Asia to reject NATO's attempt to establish itself there. But the bigger likely future battleground will be in Africa. The Empire is like a Ponzi Scheme; it must constantly add plunder from other sources as its former sources are consumed.
Yes! Thanks Karl 🫶🙏💞🙂