I didn't think my respect for Mr. Lavrov as a diplomat could get much higher, yet it inched up again. His command of all the issues related to Russia and the multi-polar world is, obviously, second to none. And I'll just add a little comment made by Larry Johnson on his own substack. He commented on Lavrov's humility during this meeting. There's few things more engaging than great competence combined with a humble demeanor. It speaks volumes about character.
Amazing guy. One wonders how Mario, the snake, feels when dealing with him. Mario is not in his league and knows it.
'Men in dark suits' is what caused DJT to stop talking about NATO, my guess was and still is. There will be more surprises along those lines.
Time to tracks weapons shipments again.
The money to Ukraine moves in part through bonds. The US sells them and gives the proceeds to Ukraine. Black Rock et. al. buy them and receive interest payments from . . . . Uncle Sam, of course. Uncle Sam can call the maturity on the bond as it wants and pay face value. Never worry about the usual suspects losing their money.
Lavrov, head and shoulders above the political pygmies of the west. I guess it's intimidating for his interlocutors as every one of them will know this too.
There isn't anything that I could add that hasn't a;ready been said by the gym members about Lavrov. I found it amusing that he fiddled with his notes during the whole interview without once looking at them to answer a question.
Was it me being hallucinogenic when Lavrov mentioned Odessa and the ties to Katherine the Great, leading me to
believe that Mother Russia wants her backs in the Federation.
I also found it funny that Narwal who I think is a spook for at least one of the 17 "intelligence agencies" asked
about recreating an alliance between Russia and the US. For heavens sake listen to what both Russia and China says at a minimum and then forget that the USA is still a hegemon. They just 2 weeks ago started talking about earning each others trust. And it also shows that amerika wants everything done yesterday without ever looking what might happen 10-15 years down the road. Just like WS is only concerned w/quarterly earnings, amerika wants alliances within a 1st meeting.
With Trump sending both arms and money he has taken over the role of Biden in the Ukraine fiasco
Yeah, I’d say Trump has now earned a spot in the accused box at the eventual Nuremburg 2.0. Odessa is the Southern St. Petersburg, a status known by Russians but by few others.
The Russians are not much into retaliation militarily. They chart a course and try to stick to it (Milites and Unimperator on MoA).
Putin held up the destruction of Ukraine's energy infrastructure because he did not want the civilians to freeze. That, as a response to Ukraine attacks on the Russian oil and gas infrastructure, said Putin.
They have done well chasing down foreign military, in the field, in their barracks and in their hotels. Z was complaining last week about a hotel hosting providers of humanitarian assistance being destroyed. Patriots typically host a US crew. Patriot gone, crew gone.
Anti-Spiegel hasn’t been paying attention. Everytime Putin visits an HQ in the Combat Zone he wears fatigues to blend in with all the other fatigues. Of course, not all those visits produce photos. The first time I saw him in Fatigues was at the Donetsk HQ in 2022. The real message was the announced fate of the mercs and other captured soldiers, which adds to what Marai Zakharova says weekly and what Russia has planned for those that started this aggressive war in 2014.
Yes, folks say there is some kinda difference twixt neosxum con and neo liberal con,
Or twixt demoRats and the ones who at least voiced a desire for peace....but we know America is if nothing else, a pile of lies that collapses under their own weight.
The problem with engaging in lies is they soon add up to an inability to know what is true , as one uses all the energy of the brain to remember which lies were stated....or not, and certainly the habit of engagement in lies is basically the ultimate betrayal of self, and others
Yay, Karl, again! The 'Thinkers" realize that your work simply compiling, translating, lightly-editing, & publishing the RU statements (from the horse's mouth) is more valuable than the babble of many pundits combined. Your "highlighting" & commentary is the "cherry on the sundae". Keep on Truckin'!
For those of us paying attention, there is not a whole heck of a lot of new info from this transcript. As always, forwarding to my small audience, some of whom are starting to open their eyes.
His eloquence with regard to the suggestion that there is a lack of unity in government circles, in respect to the June 2024 statement by President Putin, concerning the minimum expectations of the Russian Federation from any peace negotiations.
"Our conscience is transparent and pure. Not because we rarely use it." Dispelled any notion, which I see as yet another Western 'projection', that Russian diplomacy is guilty of the same double standards that typifies, let's call it, normal anglo-saxon diplomatic pronouncements as opposed to their 'actual intentions'.
I watched it, via the link provided, before reading the transcript, which seemed to have been slightly edited. Two comments specifically come to mind, although my memory may have been effected by my own beliefs. The first concerns Guterres being 'called out' as not being as neutral as his official position requires. The second concerns covid, which I don't recall him referring to as a 'pandemic'.
So far, I'm pretty much alone in my view that the war won't end. That the war will continue.
In a commentary on L. Johnson, I wrote the following:
"... The scenario described has happened countless times in the past. Buying time. What, among other things, can happen in the USA during this time?
The development of hypersonic weapons. The successor to the Virginia class, called “SSNX”, including hypersonic weapons. The Columbia class is to replace the Ohio class, etc.
But the most important thing is that the US oligarchy will never accept that it will lose its dictat over the global economy. This is already the case to an advanced extent. The problem is systemic.
Who knows today what the balance of power in the USA will be in 2030 or 2040?! Russia must find a sustainable solution. If necessary, then with military power."
“It is up to the Americans to prove they are trustworthy. Their word is worth nothing.”
Did Rubio admit that the US is waging this war against Russia? He used the term "proxy war." But ultimately, those are just two different words for the same thing.
The US is just buying time to resume the war at a later date. This is a war against the BRICS, against the trend of the "Global South" toward a multipolar world. This war will only be over for the US oligarchy when it regains control of the global economy. But that won't happen.
Internationally, there is much confusion about the suicidal and irrational actions of the European elites. This is no mystery to me. These European elites, across the entire social spectrum, have been deliberately domesticated since 1945. The networks, including the US NGOs, foundations, and intelligence agencies, permeate every single cell of Europe's "body." Like metastases of cancer. Their careers, their very existence, are founded on the benevolence of transatlantic (US) mentors. Even the WEF can be traced back to the Rockefeller clan. Black Rock has a presence in the EU, in every DAX-listed company, in German ministries. Where else in Europe, I can only guess. What is its core interest or the greatest object of its desire? What does Black Rock see as the most resistant force to its goals?
It's frustrating to what extent the opposition and alternative media are falling for this "Trump PSYOP."
The systemic sources of US foreign policy are ignored by almost all alternative media outlets, analysts, etc. It is urgently necessary to examine the US socioeconomic system and its internal economic interests and constraints.
My reactions to statements by Russian politicians and diplomats are reserved. Politicians and diplomats speak as they must due to their function or office. Therefore, I do not take statements by Lavrov, for example, at 1:1.
Not to mention China, with its East Asian culture. In East and Southeast Asia, the unspoken word is far more important than the spoken word.
Those are all perceptive comments, thank you for making them.
I don't know but I strongly suspect that the powers controlling the US are biding time to resume the war later. This is just Hegemon 101. But time moves on and the world will change while the US catches its breath. By the time the US has restored its capabilities (if they can) other world powers will be that much stronger. It may become clear even to the fanatics in the US Deep State that their game is over. Certainly the rest of the world (other than the EU) will be pushing them in that direction. Time will tell of course.
I would like to add to my words that I am suggesting that the European "elites" lack the slightest empathy for the people of their own populations. Social and economic suicide does not affect these "elites" personally. The EU, which is becoming increasingly fascist and totalitarian, is further evidence of this.
No matter how much money and weapons the West pumps into Ukraine, ultimately there will be no personnel left to operate these weapons. As soon as the Nazi regime wastes 18- to 25-year-olds in this war, the Ukrainian people will cease to exist.
Who will then fight against Russia? Will the Europeans then take on the role of the Ukrainians? Not that these Europeans can defeat Russia. Impossible. But the US will achieve four goals by doing so.
1. Russia will be weakened. Russia will lose people (!), money, materials, and resources that it urgently needs for its own development.
2. The US forces the Europeans (via its whisper channels) to take out gigantic war loans, which they use to saturate the US military MIC because they have to buy US weapons systems and munitions.
3. Europe is destroyed, physically, politically, and economically. Reconstruction of Europe, within the US sphere of influence, becomes a major stimulus package for the US economy.
4. Russia and Europe are divided for generations to come.
But I'm paying attention to the Russian subordinate clauses. Namely, that the war will not be limited to Europe, but will also spread to the US. The US plans are easy to see through.
The Empire’s MIC and industrial plant are unsuitable for the tasks you give them. NATO/Ukraine don’t seem to understand they can create their own quasi-ceasefire by withdrawing Ukie forces behind the Dnieper and use drones from there. The problem as usual are the Nazis. Russia has long known the key signal that Ukraine is ready to negotiate—elections and voiding the no negotiation edict. Until those events occur, the SMO will continue.
"The Empire’s MIC and industrial plant are unsuitable for the tasks you give them."
That's why they want to gain time.
As for the Nazi regime. Elections? For elections to make sense for Russia, free and independent media must exist in Ukraine. The ban on opposition parties must end. If these conditions aren't met, one US agent will replace another US agent, one Nazi will replace another Nazi. The decisions will be made in the US. Zelensky's time is over anyway.
The Nazi regime knows exactly what will happen if the fighting stops. Then the Ukrainian people will also be concerned with themselves. For example, their dead sons and husbands, with the thousands upon thousands of tortured opponents of the regime. With the thousands upon thousands of missing family members who were extrajudicially murdered somewhere in the forests and in torture chambers. Questions about the thousands upon thousands of missing children. Information about the "black market organ trade" would find its way to the public. Fighting would break out within the army and police.
Ultimately, the regime's representatives would be lynched. They know this very well. No, there won't be a lasting peace like this, and at some point the West will continue its war against Russia over the territory of Ukraine. What would be the fate of the people of Transnistria? And so on.
Within your comment is the reason why when this began in 2022 I opined the SMO would need to liberate almost all Ukraine because that what 100% denazification would entail, and of course that would mean capturing/liberating Kiev. Nazis like Orcs live to die in war. They cannot exist in peace, and we are seeing that truism in real time--their mission is attrition: To kill as many as possible from the other side--civilian or soldier--before they get killed. Another name would be: Suicidal Psychopaths. The Russians, Belarussians, and some other CIS members understand that, while the West of course doesn't even though the Nazis are its product. That the West hasn't once spoken out about the nazi atrocities speaks volumes as Zakharova and Lavrov note constantly.
What I'd envisioned prior to Trump's win was Russia going all the way in finishing the SMO, cleansing the Galician region, then allowing it to be parsed between Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, and Romania. Following that, creating a border buffer with the remaining NATO states and to let them stew in their own juices, while allowing contact to occur with those governments that prove friendly, like Hungary. As for the Outlaw US Empire, it could piss-off. Russia would then make its own Eurasian Security Structure with likeminded states, which is almost all of Eurasia.
All the above might still occur, or only portions. If Russia backs-off its no ceasefire until negotiations are done position, it will enrage its own populous, which is why I don't see that happening.
I didn't think my respect for Mr. Lavrov as a diplomat could get much higher, yet it inched up again. His command of all the issues related to Russia and the multi-polar world is, obviously, second to none. And I'll just add a little comment made by Larry Johnson on his own substack. He commented on Lavrov's humility during this meeting. There's few things more engaging than great competence combined with a humble demeanor. It speaks volumes about character.
Amazing guy. One wonders how Mario, the snake, feels when dealing with him. Mario is not in his league and knows it.
'Men in dark suits' is what caused DJT to stop talking about NATO, my guess was and still is. There will be more surprises along those lines.
Time to tracks weapons shipments again.
The money to Ukraine moves in part through bonds. The US sells them and gives the proceeds to Ukraine. Black Rock et. al. buy them and receive interest payments from . . . . Uncle Sam, of course. Uncle Sam can call the maturity on the bond as it wants and pay face value. Never worry about the usual suspects losing their money.
The fink doth stink sir!
Larry 'Fingers' Fink that is.
Used to be Finkelstein in German, where fink is a finch. Maybe he should have picked Finch.
I wonder how many times he was guest of honour at the Epstein Ranch.
Rawhide!!!!!!
Yeah, like he came to watch the home movies.
Lavrov, head and shoulders above the political pygmies of the west. I guess it's intimidating for his interlocutors as every one of them will know this too.
You just insulted Pygmies. LOL. I was thinking more like gnats.
There isn't anything that I could add that hasn't a;ready been said by the gym members about Lavrov. I found it amusing that he fiddled with his notes during the whole interview without once looking at them to answer a question.
Was it me being hallucinogenic when Lavrov mentioned Odessa and the ties to Katherine the Great, leading me to
believe that Mother Russia wants her backs in the Federation.
I also found it funny that Narwal who I think is a spook for at least one of the 17 "intelligence agencies" asked
about recreating an alliance between Russia and the US. For heavens sake listen to what both Russia and China says at a minimum and then forget that the USA is still a hegemon. They just 2 weeks ago started talking about earning each others trust. And it also shows that amerika wants everything done yesterday without ever looking what might happen 10-15 years down the road. Just like WS is only concerned w/quarterly earnings, amerika wants alliances within a 1st meeting.
With Trump sending both arms and money he has taken over the role of Biden in the Ukraine fiasco
Yeah, I’d say Trump has now earned a spot in the accused box at the eventual Nuremburg 2.0. Odessa is the Southern St. Petersburg, a status known by Russians but by few others.
Maybe one has to actually be Russian like me to understand that so called Ukraine UkroNam is Russia, always has been....oh well
🇷🇺
I await in anticipation of Russia's reply to the 300+ Kiev drone strike yesterday. It's way past time cousin Olly Oreshnik came out to play.
So Kellog was also NSA to Pence, well screw me, we're back in 2016 where Trumplethinskin was given the run/reach around.
Anyway who cares, crank up those missile and armament centres of excellence and eviscerate Musk's starlink enterprise.
Unnecessary violence in the apprehension of Kellogg (and his Ukrainian security agreement attache case) has been approved.
The Russians are not much into retaliation militarily. They chart a course and try to stick to it (Milites and Unimperator on MoA).
Putin held up the destruction of Ukraine's energy infrastructure because he did not want the civilians to freeze. That, as a response to Ukraine attacks on the Russian oil and gas infrastructure, said Putin.
They have done well chasing down foreign military, in the field, in their barracks and in their hotels. Z was complaining last week about a hotel hosting providers of humanitarian assistance being destroyed. Patriots typically host a US crew. Patriot gone, crew gone.
One thing about the SMO going on for a while yet, is the amount of murikan mercs that are gonna bite the big one. Good riddance to the scum.
Russia is doing the civilised world a fracking big favour. Where would all these NATO scum be if not in Russia?
Yes, bothering the living daylights out of some other poor c**t.
Not a dry eye in my household when we heard AIDAR Battalion didn't male it to Kursk to create that escape corridor for what was left of the UAF.
The US has received an answer to its plans.
"A message to the USA?
Putin appears in uniform for the first time and makes a harsh statement"
https://anti-spiegel.ru/2025/putin-tritt-erstmals-in-uniform-auf-und-gibt-eine-harsche-erklaerung-ab/
Anti-Spiegel hasn’t been paying attention. Everytime Putin visits an HQ in the Combat Zone he wears fatigues to blend in with all the other fatigues. Of course, not all those visits produce photos. The first time I saw him in Fatigues was at the Donetsk HQ in 2022. The real message was the announced fate of the mercs and other captured soldiers, which adds to what Marai Zakharova says weekly and what Russia has planned for those that started this aggressive war in 2014.
Thanks for this Karl. Quite a read and a coup for The Judge et al.
And yes, - once again " ... the continuity, consistency and steadfastness of Russian policy .." shines through.
Back to "root causes" and realising the goals of the SMO.
Yes, folks say there is some kinda difference twixt neosxum con and neo liberal con,
Or twixt demoRats and the ones who at least voiced a desire for peace....but we know America is if nothing else, a pile of lies that collapses under their own weight.
The problem with engaging in lies is they soon add up to an inability to know what is true , as one uses all the energy of the brain to remember which lies were stated....or not, and certainly the habit of engagement in lies is basically the ultimate betrayal of self, and others
Yay, Karl, again! The 'Thinkers" realize that your work simply compiling, translating, lightly-editing, & publishing the RU statements (from the horse's mouth) is more valuable than the babble of many pundits combined. Your "highlighting" & commentary is the "cherry on the sundae". Keep on Truckin'!
Scott Ritter reckons that Witkoff & Trump are yanking on the jockstraps of the Euro-peons.
For those of us paying attention, there is not a whole heck of a lot of new info from this transcript. As always, forwarding to my small audience, some of whom are starting to open their eyes.
Keep up the great work!
Thanks for your comment and spreading the word! At times I wonder if I provide too much Lavrov, but there’s always something new.
Not sure if one can get too much of Mr Lavrov.
His eloquence with regard to the suggestion that there is a lack of unity in government circles, in respect to the June 2024 statement by President Putin, concerning the minimum expectations of the Russian Federation from any peace negotiations.
"Our conscience is transparent and pure. Not because we rarely use it." Dispelled any notion, which I see as yet another Western 'projection', that Russian diplomacy is guilty of the same double standards that typifies, let's call it, normal anglo-saxon diplomatic pronouncements as opposed to their 'actual intentions'.
I watched it, via the link provided, before reading the transcript, which seemed to have been slightly edited. Two comments specifically come to mind, although my memory may have been effected by my own beliefs. The first concerns Guterres being 'called out' as not being as neutral as his official position requires. The second concerns covid, which I don't recall him referring to as a 'pandemic'.
So far, I'm pretty much alone in my view that the war won't end. That the war will continue.
In a commentary on L. Johnson, I wrote the following:
"... The scenario described has happened countless times in the past. Buying time. What, among other things, can happen in the USA during this time?
The development of hypersonic weapons. The successor to the Virginia class, called “SSNX”, including hypersonic weapons. The Columbia class is to replace the Ohio class, etc.
But the most important thing is that the US oligarchy will never accept that it will lose its dictat over the global economy. This is already the case to an advanced extent. The problem is systemic.
Who knows today what the balance of power in the USA will be in 2030 or 2040?! Russia must find a sustainable solution. If necessary, then with military power."
“It is up to the Americans to prove they are trustworthy. Their word is worth nothing.”
https://julianmacfarlane.substack.com/p/larry-the-judge-and-lavrov
In addition to Julian MacFarlane, Simplicius also confirms my point of view. It's worth reading their argument to the end of the Pay article.
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/us-and-ukraine-hatch-ceasefire-travesty
Did Rubio admit that the US is waging this war against Russia? He used the term "proxy war." But ultimately, those are just two different words for the same thing.
The US is just buying time to resume the war at a later date. This is a war against the BRICS, against the trend of the "Global South" toward a multipolar world. This war will only be over for the US oligarchy when it regains control of the global economy. But that won't happen.
Internationally, there is much confusion about the suicidal and irrational actions of the European elites. This is no mystery to me. These European elites, across the entire social spectrum, have been deliberately domesticated since 1945. The networks, including the US NGOs, foundations, and intelligence agencies, permeate every single cell of Europe's "body." Like metastases of cancer. Their careers, their very existence, are founded on the benevolence of transatlantic (US) mentors. Even the WEF can be traced back to the Rockefeller clan. Black Rock has a presence in the EU, in every DAX-listed company, in German ministries. Where else in Europe, I can only guess. What is its core interest or the greatest object of its desire? What does Black Rock see as the most resistant force to its goals?
It's frustrating to what extent the opposition and alternative media are falling for this "Trump PSYOP."
The systemic sources of US foreign policy are ignored by almost all alternative media outlets, analysts, etc. It is urgently necessary to examine the US socioeconomic system and its internal economic interests and constraints.
My reactions to statements by Russian politicians and diplomats are reserved. Politicians and diplomats speak as they must due to their function or office. Therefore, I do not take statements by Lavrov, for example, at 1:1.
Not to mention China, with its East Asian culture. In East and Southeast Asia, the unspoken word is far more important than the spoken word.
Those are all perceptive comments, thank you for making them.
I don't know but I strongly suspect that the powers controlling the US are biding time to resume the war later. This is just Hegemon 101. But time moves on and the world will change while the US catches its breath. By the time the US has restored its capabilities (if they can) other world powers will be that much stronger. It may become clear even to the fanatics in the US Deep State that their game is over. Certainly the rest of the world (other than the EU) will be pushing them in that direction. Time will tell of course.
I would like to add to my words that I am suggesting that the European "elites" lack the slightest empathy for the people of their own populations. Social and economic suicide does not affect these "elites" personally. The EU, which is becoming increasingly fascist and totalitarian, is further evidence of this.
No matter how much money and weapons the West pumps into Ukraine, ultimately there will be no personnel left to operate these weapons. As soon as the Nazi regime wastes 18- to 25-year-olds in this war, the Ukrainian people will cease to exist.
Who will then fight against Russia? Will the Europeans then take on the role of the Ukrainians? Not that these Europeans can defeat Russia. Impossible. But the US will achieve four goals by doing so.
1. Russia will be weakened. Russia will lose people (!), money, materials, and resources that it urgently needs for its own development.
2. The US forces the Europeans (via its whisper channels) to take out gigantic war loans, which they use to saturate the US military MIC because they have to buy US weapons systems and munitions.
3. Europe is destroyed, physically, politically, and economically. Reconstruction of Europe, within the US sphere of influence, becomes a major stimulus package for the US economy.
4. Russia and Europe are divided for generations to come.
But I'm paying attention to the Russian subordinate clauses. Namely, that the war will not be limited to Europe, but will also spread to the US. The US plans are easy to see through.
The Empire’s MIC and industrial plant are unsuitable for the tasks you give them. NATO/Ukraine don’t seem to understand they can create their own quasi-ceasefire by withdrawing Ukie forces behind the Dnieper and use drones from there. The problem as usual are the Nazis. Russia has long known the key signal that Ukraine is ready to negotiate—elections and voiding the no negotiation edict. Until those events occur, the SMO will continue.
"The Empire’s MIC and industrial plant are unsuitable for the tasks you give them."
That's why they want to gain time.
As for the Nazi regime. Elections? For elections to make sense for Russia, free and independent media must exist in Ukraine. The ban on opposition parties must end. If these conditions aren't met, one US agent will replace another US agent, one Nazi will replace another Nazi. The decisions will be made in the US. Zelensky's time is over anyway.
The Nazi regime knows exactly what will happen if the fighting stops. Then the Ukrainian people will also be concerned with themselves. For example, their dead sons and husbands, with the thousands upon thousands of tortured opponents of the regime. With the thousands upon thousands of missing family members who were extrajudicially murdered somewhere in the forests and in torture chambers. Questions about the thousands upon thousands of missing children. Information about the "black market organ trade" would find its way to the public. Fighting would break out within the army and police.
Ultimately, the regime's representatives would be lynched. They know this very well. No, there won't be a lasting peace like this, and at some point the West will continue its war against Russia over the territory of Ukraine. What would be the fate of the people of Transnistria? And so on.
Within your comment is the reason why when this began in 2022 I opined the SMO would need to liberate almost all Ukraine because that what 100% denazification would entail, and of course that would mean capturing/liberating Kiev. Nazis like Orcs live to die in war. They cannot exist in peace, and we are seeing that truism in real time--their mission is attrition: To kill as many as possible from the other side--civilian or soldier--before they get killed. Another name would be: Suicidal Psychopaths. The Russians, Belarussians, and some other CIS members understand that, while the West of course doesn't even though the Nazis are its product. That the West hasn't once spoken out about the nazi atrocities speaks volumes as Zakharova and Lavrov note constantly.
What I'd envisioned prior to Trump's win was Russia going all the way in finishing the SMO, cleansing the Galician region, then allowing it to be parsed between Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, and Romania. Following that, creating a border buffer with the remaining NATO states and to let them stew in their own juices, while allowing contact to occur with those governments that prove friendly, like Hungary. As for the Outlaw US Empire, it could piss-off. Russia would then make its own Eurasian Security Structure with likeminded states, which is almost all of Eurasia.
All the above might still occur, or only portions. If Russia backs-off its no ceasefire until negotiations are done position, it will enrage its own populous, which is why I don't see that happening.