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bevin's avatar

The Nazis were hunted- by imperialist recruiters.

With the exception of a few very high profile 'sacrifices' to an almost unanimously anti-fascist global public opinion, the Nazis were drafted into service to continue the work- anti communist, imperialist, ultra capitalist- that they had begun in Germany. And Italy. And France, And Finland. And Spain...and everywhere in Europe. And America.

And the men who recruited them were exemplified by the Dulles Brothers, Nazi sympathisers from their earliest days who celebrated the partnerships between US capital and anti-working class thuggery. The politics of the era of Fordism were even more influential than the techincal managerial aspect of the same philosophy.

I did graduate work under one of the very influential academics who emerged from the University of Chicago in the '40s: Bill Letwin was not, so far as I know, a student of Strauss though he was a fan. He was also, notably, a thoroughgoing neo-liberal, as were all the Strauss allies, like Hayek and Popper.

Neo-conservatism is the other side of the neo-liberal coin. Just as capitalism is the other side of the imperial coin. The 'Chicago Boys' in Pinochet's Santiago symbolised the marriage between neo-classical economics and beating trade unionists to death.

What is going on in Gaza is horrific but what it tells us is that imperialism is in deep trouble and trembling on the brink of extinction- it has lost its inhibitions because it sees death approaching and is staking everything on a desperate last throw.

Which is precisely what is happening, in a barely more restrained fashion, in Ukraine. Jabotinsky was from Odessa, I believe and the fascism that he developed was one of several variants that were brewed in the cauldron of the borderlands in the era of Tsardom's collapse and the Russian Civil War.

The support that Israel has got and is getting from the "West" comes from exactly the same politics as that which motivates the European elites- descendants almost to a man of Nazis and Collaborators- to replicate Hitler's Barbarossa strategy.

The signs are that both Israel and the six century old Empire are coming to an end, but if they are not civilisation cannot survive their continuance.

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Don Firineach's avatar

Odessa was one of the main centres of Jewish culture and trade since its foundation by Catherine the Great in 18thC.

"There were 246 Jews (out of a total population of 2,349) in 1795, 6,950 (out of 41,700) in 1831, 51,378 (out of 193,513) in 1873, 138,935 (out of 403,815) in 1897. During the Soviet period, the Jewish population continued to grow: in 1926, 153,243 (of a total population of 420,862), and 200,981 in 1939 (out of 604,217). It was then the second largest Jewish population in Ukraine, after Kiev. After World War II 108,900 Jews lived in Odesa (12.1% of the total) in 1959, and 86,000 (8.4% of the total) in 1979."

Read on: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/odessa

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Refax's avatar

Almost all the prominent Jewish Neocons or Neo Bolshewiks as I like to call them come from what is modern day Ukraine. They have a deep hatred for Russia who would not let their kind into the heart of the Empire and only allowing them to remain in the Pale of Settlement. They are also still bitter about Russia’s destruction of Khazaria, the Judeo Empire in the early middle ages encompassing a vast portion of far Eastern Europe.

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dornoch altbinhax's avatar

I'm in agreement. The combined west is now going full Orwellian totalitarian and only has insane policies both internally and externally.

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heikomr's avatar

I absolutely agree with that. It is with great concern and even horror that I observe the intensity with which totalitarianism is being installed in the West. This is perhaps also due to the fact that capitalism, the money-debt system, is once again coming to its cyclical end and, at the same time, the fiat money system is facing competition from a block of the real economy. Social unrest and opposition forces are being violently combated.

But it seems that even worse is planned. The restart of the system is to use AI and robotics to replace human labor as far as possible. For a long time, I was skeptical about the theory of population reduction, although not entirely dismissive. But since 2020, mRNA injections, the UN Agenda 2030 and Larry Fink's public statements on, literally, "the need for population reduction", I no longer have any doubts. Let's not beat around the bush. This is about a genocide of global humanity. However, this genocide can only be carried out to a large extent in the "Western" hemisphere through the formation of a new world order.

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dornoch altbinhax's avatar

The WEF crowd absorbed the Club of Rome's prognostications and money power saw the "Green Agenda" as a means to monetise/arbitrage the underlying resource base of mineral and agricultural lands via extra territorial treaties. The BRICS is a direct threat as both Russia and China will not countenance external "private" control over their lands. The agenda of depopulation goes hand in hand with big tech's obsession with AI everything. The increasing financial tensions and frequent tremors, most recently from Japan's attempts to rescue the yen suggest they can't quite pull the reset trigger which I believe they are desperate for. We have entered the stage of hot combat which appears to be expanding beyond proxies.

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Gerrard White's avatar

Very informative : and- the borderlands theme is seldom emphasisd as it should

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Sean's avatar

BEVIN- What is going on in Gaza is horrific but what it tells us is that imperialism is in deep trouble and trembling on the brink of extinction- it has lost its inhibitions because it sees death approaching and is staking everything on a desperate last throw.

Sean- This is unfounded hypothetical conjecture which lacks serious verifiable evidence to support such an assertion. It is making connections and theorizing on causes that does not necessarily follow. Much more likely to be narrow cast psychological projection in an effort to find a bigger badder perpetrator.

The actual Perpetrator is as clear as day. The Jewish State of Israel and the Zionist fanatics who run it and who voted in this and prior governments for decades.

What has gone in Palestine pre-WW2, 1948/49, the 1950s, the other Arab wars, the Intifada and what led up to it, the actions of settlers in the west bank, the Lebanon war and the US bombing of Beirut was ALWAYS HORRIFIC. Nothing has changed as to who and why the terrorism and deaths are occurring now.

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J. Matson Heininger's avatar

Based on the picture... I think you might appreciate the links in my post about the Straussians. From Sep, 2023. The Neocons In Charge: For too long, over 30 years, and extending 60, and regardless of party, as they shapeshift, and move from Democratic to Republican party, as they infiltrate once great journals like the Atlantic monthly (Jeffrey Goldberg, Davd Frum, George Bush's axis of evil Frum) the Straussians who became the neocons including Bill Kristol, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz and the younger ones Victoria Nuland, and her Kagan husband and family, with their extensive intermarriage associations and social tentacles have been responsible for evil in the United States, and caused the United States to become a Warmonger Nation, and a more worldwide disruptive nation than it might have been.

https://open.substack.com/pub/heininger/p/the-neocons-the-usas-warmonger-nightmare?r=16lm0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

Excellent comment. There's lots of content about the Straussians; I came across them in the early 1990s within GHW Bush's regime. Lots of clamoring about them and their connection to 911 since it filled their bill. Note that Neocons were never attacked as extremists or termed threats like Communists, Socialists and peace advocates, and have always been well treated by BigLie Media.

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J. Matson Heininger's avatar

I, like you have been observing them since the 1990's. The comment is the beginning of my short substack (as I said check out the links. You may learn something from the attached essays, I did) I posted the substack when I realized how few were aware of them... I am also a Patreon/supporter follower of Michael Hudson, as I know you are. Be Well. I appreciated your comments in the discussion.

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Garry Gerskwotiz's avatar

It is an excellent comment though from what I remember the neocons

were always considered a threat, that's why Gore giving Dubya the

presidency with out a fight (he won Florida) put the final nail in the

so called Republic. Dubya noted it distinctly when he said the Constitution

is just a piece of paper.

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

Clinton's regime was just as bad as the Neocons and adopted the Wolfowitz Doctrine not once but twice-in 1996 and again in1999 with the public announcement of the Outlaw US Empire's new Doctrine--Full Spectrum Dominance. Plus, 911 was prepared during Clinton/Gore. Recall that 500,000 dead Iraqi children was a fair price announced by Neocon Albright. So, Clinton/Gore are just as guilty as those that came before and those that followed.

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Garry Gerskwotiz's avatar

All of our presidents are guilty. I keep trying to figure which one was the worst of them all, but that's nothing but a "fools task". They're all equally the worst, but Empty Suit really screwed us all over, with him there was no hope for change!

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

LBJ tried change in the 1960s-his Great Society program that wasn't allowed to even get started as Vietnam demanded the monies needed for finance. There's been no similar effort made since, and Trump's MAGA suffered a similar fate along with incompetent management from the top-down.

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Garry Gerskwotiz's avatar

I believe that Trumps MAGA was nothing but a marketing ploy, he did absolutely nothing for ordinary J6P

I'll 100% that he and his administration were totally incompetent though

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rakyat kecil's avatar

G'day Gary,empty suit?

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Garry Gerskwotiz's avatar

G'day mate

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Ahenobarbus's avatar

"They deserve to be hunted as the Nazis were, and all merit the death penalty."

My thoughts exactly.

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Random Ruminations's avatar

"Neither Harris or Trump offer a solution aside from more war as in reality they won’t control the federal government because they can’t. And therein lies the biggest problem for all Americans—how to destroy the Neocon Deep State and create a new federal government."

Indeed.

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Cousin Adam's avatar

We the People were sold into financial slavery by the creation of the “Creature of Jekyll Island “ (Federal Reserve Bank) essentially handing the foxes (Bankers) the keys to the henhouse (US Treasury). Short of “throwing the money-changers from the Temple” and declaring a debt Jubilee I’m afraid you can “stick a fork in us - We’re done!” To quote a favorite Greatful Dead lyric, “If you plant ice, you’re gonna harvest wind” (copyright J. Garcia/ R. Hunter - Ice Nine Publishing Co. - obvious h/t Kurt Vonnegut’s “Cat’s Cradle”)

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Random Ruminations's avatar

I like Jefferson's prescription:

"When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil."

It is not only succinct and pithy but always doable. The key is to focus first on the corruption not waste time and effort coming up with the Next Great Ideology. Dysfunction creates confusion and suffering so anyone persuasively offering Hope, Change, Freedom, Joy etc. is psychologically welcomed. But what they offer cannot be delivered whilst the skeins of corruption making their prescription so welcome still exist. No, first the corruption must be exposed and excised. The more you contemplate this the truer it gets: first address the corruption. In this regard, though I agree with you 100% that the Money System is a big part of it, beneath that is the corrupt mentalities and culture which allowed it to come to be. Unless that is addressed, getting rid of the current rotten system won't prevent another one quickly being mounted in its stead.

Which is where the Putin/Duginian solution of accessing core civilizational character and values comes in (along with Jefferson's second recommendation above). Every nation/polity is unique with particular strengths and weaknesses. This core character must be seen and re-cultivated.

Then and only then can one start to put together a new system. Whereas usually people come in suggesting alternative systems to implement from the get-go. And they always end up doing more harm than good. Witness French and Russian revolutions...

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Cousin Adam's avatar

Effing brilliant - a real keeper! Completely agree with your commentary, thanks for your reply! Michael Hudson and Steve Keen are touchstones for me in your book my attempts to ‘follow the money’ You might enjoy Yves Smith’s “Skunk Party Manifesto” - easily found in the Naked Capitalism archives. I’m mulling over the idea of starting a pitchfork business ;^)

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

Iran should just level tel aviv. Decapitate that monstrosity once & for all.

With Israel gone once & for all, the US can throw all the tantrums it once. It won"t bring their land based aircraft carrier back. And maybe their other mideast pals will have 2nd thoughts about replacing it.

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rakyat kecil's avatar

I don't believe war will settle or ameliorate anything when there is a profit based system and the means of production are in warmongers hands even defenders against warmongers still usurp the cream.

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Don Firineach's avatar

Well, in order to enrage a billion of the Islamic faith into the fever of Jihad - "Ben Gvir [...] controls the Temple Mount security – there is always the Temple Mount/Al-Aqsa escalatory ladder available for climbing (through threatening the destruction of Al-Aqsa Mosque)."

Not 'threatening' but actually bulldozing it to the ground. And Ben Gvir has sufficient support, both rabinical and settler, to do so ... with or without Netanyahu.

A very informative piece by Crooke.

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Paul Spencer's avatar

Well done, Karl. MoA is so dense with bs these days, it's just not worth the time. Think that I'll just come to your site. Will send a few bucks

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

I still drop by in the mornings to see what's happening and perhaps make a few comments. Otherwise yes, many barflies have subscribed, but not many comment, which I don't mind.

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

With Ukraine in death throes, the hasbara trolls are working over time.

This too shall pass.

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

Thanks for your delicious comment!! I won't be able to view it until tomorrow, but better late than never!

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Don Firineach's avatar

Ta. This is what I viewed earlier via his channel.

Rumble it is then.

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Jul's avatar

Or judgenap.com

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Garry Gerskwotiz's avatar

What I fail to comprehend is how america failed so badly in knowing

what the neocons/Straussians were up to. It was all out in the open

for all to see with the PNAC leading the neocons.

Also Netanyahu doesn't do this is if he knows he doesn't have 100% amerikan

(Blinken)support. Biden calling for a ceasefire for 9 months was total BS. Blinken is

running the Israeli portfolio from top to bottom

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

The capture of Media and its becoming BigLie Media is partly to blame. But 100% of the blame falls on US Citizens for failing to perform their duty as citizens--they completely abdicated, which has been the status quo since the early 1970s. Perhaps the Church Committee Investigations were the last hurrah. Sure, some of us continued to agitate, but not nearly in the many tens of millions that are required to sustain the claim that the Outlaw US Empire is a democracy.

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token's avatar

wow, this truly opened my eye even further than ever before, i see now what was hidden and now in plain sight

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Sean's avatar

Please explain. What do you now know you didn't know before? Nothing has been that hidden. I'm stunned by the 'wow'.

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token's avatar

i did not know about Strauss and Jabotinsky, where in american institutions they incubated their extreme ideas and spread them and planned for what we see now.

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Ed's avatar

It is past time that BRICS get acting in the geo-strategic avenue. The corrupt imperial arsenal of democracy is evil, it must be thwarted.

First step is fully equipped Chinese volunteers in Kursk. Their ocean is not enough.

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Sean's avatar

Don't hold your breath waiting or you'll die.

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james's avatar

thanks karl.. americas problems are the worlds problems - still.. i hope that changes one day where the usa has much less influence, or at least less malevolent influence... i read crookes article earlier today.. it is quite good.. it led me to a surprise find from foreign affairs article which i highly recommend, as it ties right into crookes overview and more - https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/undoing-israel

i do believe israel is in a no win situation at present and is now much like south africa was prior to the end of it's apartheid apparatus coming down.. just what has to happen in israel looks a lot more severe and troubling..

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

I see a superficial comparison between the two, the big difference being the Zionists are a threat to global peace while the Afrikaners weren't and had no eschatological myth driving their fanaticism. In your link, I found the segment "SPARTA WITH A YARMULKE" rather hard to swallow as well as the authors's not respecting the humanity of the slaughtered. Again, the mistakes were made during and after WW2, with it being clear the UK and US governments then were well staffed by that time's Neocons.

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bevin's avatar

It is no accident that Israel and Apartheid (National Party) South Africa shared a birthday- both states began in 1948. Both emerged after fitful wars against British rule and both believed in the racial, cultural and historic superiority of the chosen people they represented. The similarities between the Dutch Reform theology in Afrikaaner experience and Judaism are worth studying- no doubt they have been studied.

The Afrikaaners and the Israelis worked increasingly closely together- on defence and intelligence, in the development of nuclear weapons and in fighting against liberation movements wherever they occured, in Africa, Latin America or west Asia.

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james's avatar

thanks karl!

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marcjf's avatar

An iteresting piece, thank you.

The thesis is that Israel has been captured by a group whose motivations are religious and not secular, and this defines their view of their physical and morale place in the world, and that there is no real point challenging or trying to negotiate with this agenda which is God given. Israel has itself captured the organs of the US deep state and will try to drag it into what it sees as an inevitable regional showdown - a conflict which has all the propensity needed to ignite WW3. Indeed many factions within the US MIC would welcome such a thing. It is difficult to raise serious arguments against such a thesis given recent events.

Is there a way out? The author posits that the USA needs to change its government - not the elected one but the unelected one. No chance of that. So where does that leave us?

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

IMO, the continuing application of what I've been calling a siege or Anaconda Plan aimed at destroying the Zionist economy seems to be working. True, there remain nations that provide essential goods like oil, but if the refineries are wrecked and ports closed that won't matter. The Zionist's #1 supplier of coal, Colombia, has ceased its exports of that vital fuel. The drilling rig platforms are being targeted and some are ablaze. The delayed retaliatory attack led by Iran is infuriating Netanyahu. The nations providing crude oil to the Zionists are majority Muslim, and if Al-Aqsa's destroyed, I'll assume their oil supplies would finally cease. And what would Jordan's fate be if that happened? Yes, it's a very odd sort of war, but it's the first one that's confined within Occupied Palestine.

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Sean's avatar

M - The thesis is that Israel has been captured by a group whose motivations are religious and not secular, and this defines their view of their physical and morale place in the world, and that there is no real point challenging or trying to negotiate with this agenda which is God given.

Thesis? It's always been like this over 100 years now before Israel was created. They didn't call it the Jewish State for nothing. None of these matters are new. The jewsih terrorism murders and thefts were never an accident and was always about their God given land. I do not get the sense this is all such a 'surprise' to anyone or it's a recent "thesis" - it has always been 100% a religious reality.

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Francisco d’Anconia's avatar

When Medvedev made the comment that it was going to take a hotter war to resolve any of this I was convinced that this was going to escalate but now it seems that either the threat of nuclear retaliation was effective or the axis has realized that prolonging the conflict guarantees maximum economic damage. Maybe a little of both, although Iran’s promise to do equal damage through conventional means seems credible. My thought at the time was that we were at an absolute minimum in terms of adult supervision in the US and that the forces aligned to war were at their apex, and that Russia and China had to be salivating at the prospect of the US getting embroiled in what’s guaranteed to be an absolute fiasco.

Someone reminded us that Sun Tzu said never to repeat a successful move... so we wait.

The questions floating around my head now are:

At what time will Israel and the empire be most vulnerable? Do China and Russia intend to let the empire flame out slowly or will they actually put it to the sword?

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

It's economic Hari-Kiri for both. The fuse to the internal bomb was lit long ago. The Zionists will succumb first followed by the Neoliberalcons.

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Francisco d’Anconia's avatar

The axis needs to deprive the empire of any confidence-building or righteous acts. Patience above all else. If they preemptively attack Iran with more than the pinprick PR moves they will prove themselves to be beyond desperate and that will be devastating to the overall righteousness of their cause, not to mention cement the total fall from grace in terms of respect or adoration worldwide.

What would the fall of Ukraine portend? Would they go for broke in Iran? That might seem attractive. But the Russians would have the opportunity to play spoiler once again.

I agree that the west and Israel are checkmated. The mask is truly off now and they are blindly digging themselves deeper and deeper.

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Gerrard White's avatar

Thank you again - it can only be hoped that the RoW, primarily RF China and Iran are as clever as Crooke and understand perfectly the game the Israelis are playing

And will all possible patience and co ordination with Muslim states and non staters check mate these so called provocations or escalations in favour on slow strangulation

As RF in Ukraine

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Sean's avatar

Crooke isn't some amazing 'clever' person. None of this stuff is unknown. Just because he put a few minor facts into an article today does not mean no one else knew about it forever already. No secrets have been exposed. This is all old news. The problem is just as old. The west have been enabling all this for 100 years, nothing has changed and will not change even they killed all the Palestinians. That's how sick the mentality of the west is and has been forever.

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Gerrard White's avatar

This is truly good news, thank you

Life is but the eternal cycle, what is new is but what is old

We all do and do not carry this knowledge

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Don Firineach's avatar

Crooke was on https://judgenap.com/ today. And I tuned in - Nakba the plan - full-on Stern Gang

I can't seem to find it now

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Jul's avatar

Under the tab "podcast"

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Don Firineach's avatar

Thank you. I'll check it our later on.

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