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WTFUD's avatar

Starmer - My first priority is the safety and security of the British public. To this end we will engage the foremost nuclear power on the planet. Clown!

The beatings will continue until common sense prevails.

Excessive use of violence in the apprehension of Zelensky and his Nazi Bandera has been approved.

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dacoelec's avatar

These people are certifiably insane. They aren't redeemable in any real sense.

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marcjf's avatar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySNGw-0cFEc Whilst I despair of European leaders, their view (apparently) is well explained in the first 10 minutes of this video by someone who should know. But alas, I think they have fallen victim to their own propaganda rather than engaging in rational analysis.

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Daniel Helkenn's avatar

Victoria Nuland was correct about what should be done with the EU.

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Jo Waller's avatar

That is what's being done to the EU! They are being used as a US proxy and fed feet first into the meat grinder now that the Ukrainians have nearly dried up.

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Acco Hengst's avatar

Macron is off the wall along with Starmer. Threatening the use of French nuclear weapons? Who actually controls them? I guess they are not assigned to NATO for its use, entirely a French operation.

Lavrov has been consistent and articulate. NATO boots on the ground have already been greeted by Mr. Iskander. Those hotels with 'humanitarian' groups (so says Zelensky) are going to be targeted some more. Sorties from Ukraine runways only by NATO aircraft? This could get interesting.

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Jo Waller's avatar

If they are French troops, as encouraged by Trump and Hegseth, then the US is relieved of Article 5

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Ravishing Rudey's avatar

France has an independent Nuclear deterrent, Britain does not.

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marcjf's avatar

Hmmm? I think you are right but I read different things about this and it is difficult to get a definitive answer. Strategic ambiguity in action? But can you imagine someone as emotionally charged as Macron with the power to bring about WW3? No way is Russia going to allow itself to get nuked whilst the USA does not. And the USA knows this.

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Ravishing Rudey's avatar

That is not what I was commenting on. The UK nuclear deterrent requires American authorisation, the French one does not. That is all I am commenting on.

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grr's avatar

"Who actually controls them? "

If Epstein is still alive he may be able to answer that question.

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Loam's avatar

Never have the Emperor and his vassals been so clearly exposed. Their efforts to conceal the truth are becoming more and more pathetic.

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Jo Waller's avatar

No, the opposite, they are not even trying to conceal it. Rubio has admitted Ukraine was a proxy war, all Biden's fault of course (not). Even Trump speaking to Putin means they admit it was a proxy war- why would the US be interested in a border dispute miles away if not. Hegseth wants the NATO nations to increase spending from 2% to 5% of GDP. The whole purpose of NATO is to hold a dagger at Russia's throat.

The empire is openly declaring war on Russia and on China.

What's more and more pathetic is both the right wing nationalists thinking Trump is great and brings peace and the EU 'globalist' (whatever that is) puppets, thinking what they've been taught to think, that they can 'pacify' Russia!!!

The truth of the empire is so blindingly obvious that many people can't see it.

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Loam's avatar

The hyenas of Washington and London ALWAYS lie, even when, for some obscure reason, they are telling the truth.

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Don Midwest's avatar

I didn't recall the 2019 meeting in Paris when Macron and Merkel agreed to continue the Minsk II agreement.

How many times have they demonstrated that they are not agreement capable?

Their "proposals" are dead in the water.

Propaganda is a powerful force and it has rebounded on European leaders.

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WTFUD's avatar

I enjoy listening to a contrarian view just in case Karl and the community here are trying to lull me into a false sense of security and ya'll are living in the twilight zone.

I found one, George Friedman, Hungarian born American, Futurologist and political scientist.

'Why Putin has lost the war in Ukraine'

So I scanned my palm as instructed and sent it off to him; he reckons it's not too late for me if I quickly jump back onto the reservation.

Seriously, what is it with these butt-hurt former Eastern Europeans?

Anyhow, it inspired me to write a little song, plagiarising an old band called Squeeze.

'The Russians send signals from the rocks above the pass

(lancets, orlans, krasnopols, fabs, iskanders)

Nato-Ukies take positions in the trenches and the grass

But all they get is frostbite and a nasty little rash

Meanwhile on the frontline half a million likely lads

Who swear like how's your father

But are very cool for cats

They're cool for cats'

I bet this nutter was a former recipient of USAID

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Jo Waller's avatar

Brilliant original, not sure about this version

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WTFUD's avatar

You're too kind Jo!

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grr's avatar

"George Friedman, Hungarian born American, Futurologist and political scientist."

...and JEW!

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Ravishing Rudey's avatar

Despite how much people want to elide this as an aspect, it utterly remains so.

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Jo Waller's avatar

The European attitude was created by the US. They are still vassals of the empire, Trump hasn't dumped them, he's using them to continue the proxy war with their own money while he looks to be the one who is trying to make peace and also gets to focus on enemy no. 1; China.

As Hegseth said it's merely a 'division of labour' and a continuity of the same- US based interests ie BlackRock et al calling the shots and refusing to accept multipolarity.

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

Yes, I saw that earlier today. The free portion of Crooke’s essay is enough to make one review “US traditional Republican values” of governance, meaning rule by the wealthy for the benefit of the wealthy and no one else mixed in with global dominating imperialism. And what other group advocated the “Great Reset”—the WEF/Davos/Globalists. Cooke has no idea of what Trump has planned domestically, and it’s not pretty. Trump is nothing like Putin; their brands of Conservatism aren’t alike whatsoever. Nor is there any “global vibe-shift’ as the Global Majority is mostly collective in its socio-cultural ways, not hyper-individualistic like the brand of Libertinism—not Libertarianism—Trump, Musk and allies adhere to. Libertinism was the Marquis de Sade’s philosophy.

Biden was bad and a threat to world peace. Trump is also bad and a threat to world peace—the only difference is methodology.

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Jo Waller's avatar

I'm curious about the 'group' the WEF/Davos/Globalists- do you think they're an actual evil cabal?The EU 'globalists' are just puppets of US Russia hawks. The WEF is a vanity project set up by a weirdo in Switzerland that happens to meet in Davos once a year, inviting lots of other virtue signallers and loathed hypocrites. They also run a project for 'leaders' that consists of some Zoom meetings and a two week networking jolly. The WEF have been extensively used by the fossil fuel funded the Heartland Institute as a stooge- constituting a scary threat in the whole world, controlling us with plates in the brain and faking climate change to bankrupt us with green policies- to promote a swing to right wing populism.

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

The WEF dates back to Reagan and before that there was, and still is, the Bilderberg and Trilateral Commission. all of which trace back to Europe’s ancien regime from the late 18th Century—the fuedal-landlord class, the rent seekers. That Class consisting of very old money has learned how to adapt and evolve as the times and technologies advance. The oligarchy is different yet the same in how it operates and is arguably the most successful it’s ever been, although it faces challenges like never before since it’s experienced a partial unmasking along with the revelation of its historical roots. Trump’s reset differs little from the WEF’s reset as both aim to benefit the top 10%, while again exploiting the lower and middle classes via further lies and manipulations.

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Jo Waller's avatar

Whatever the WEF/ landlord class once were there is no group faking climate change and trying to control us with left wing big government and green policies- these guys are all right wing, free marketeering, deregulation loving, legacy industry old duffers.

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Jo Waller's avatar

So yes you think it's some sort of coherent entity of musty old European families that still, somehow, have influence, yet their effect is indistinguishable cos their aims are the same as the new money ie BlackRock and Stone who are the deep state and who run both Trump and the democrats?

Would you not agree that the Bildenberg, trilateral commission, WEF and Rockefeller's funding of the Club of Rome (to control the envirionmental movement) have been deliberately 'umasked' and the 'class's' historical roots focused on and obsessed over for political reasons- to distract from the actual present deep state.

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Natalya Volkova's avatar

I am not familiar with this type of ideology, I did search about it. There are several pictures of Trump and musk with suspicious people who, if true, are very depraved and disgusting creatures.

Trump is not a politician, it seems to me he is some type of media weirdo. If everything is about him then everything is working, it is not and he is now boring to listen and waste time reading about. We do not care about sanctions, we don't need anything. They did this in 2014, somehow he forgot?

Is it some type of theater? It cannot make anyone discontent, we only become more determined, that's it.

By the way, is it a coincidence this 350 billion it gave Ukraine and the supposed 350 billion frozen of ours? Russia will not behave, we can't get the subsoil so we take the frozen assets, declare victory. Is this next?

Imagine these idiots behaving this way in 1941?

Of course these are not really questions, you know anyway.

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

Our family came up with a saying to describe the behaviors of people like Trump--Poodlehead. In this case, he's the pet of longstanding powerful Libertarian forces within the Deep State whose main visible institution is the Heritage Foundation and its appendages. Yes, theatrics are combined with narrative to spell-bind the audience, somewhat like a magician. Trump was also a longtime promoter of the faux "Pro-wrestling" entertainment game, from which he transitioned to his own program, "The Apprentice." I never watched either because of their falsity, but millions did and do. Our nation is filled with Poodleheads.

Russia must do what it must for Russia, and not to satisfy anything the West desires. That might not be very popular since that means the SMO will continue until Ukraine unconditionally surrenders, and now hopes are high that it will end soon now that Trump has somewhat admitted the Outlaw US Empire's defeat. The key to understanding Trump is to look at how he's treating China, BRICS, and the rest of the world. He's no friend of Russia or Putin. The main difference between him and Biden is Trump talks.

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Natalya Volkova's avatar

Everything is not normal, well I do not understand but it seems to me that America has lost the government to a gang of oligarchs. Musk is living with Trump in the white house and the Florida estate.

Again there is a lot of propaganda starting, they are beginning the story to deny victory by making excuses for missing weapons and intelligence, and continuing to avoid the truth that Trump and republicans are also guilty of starting the conflict. We did not talk about any negotiations, it has been only the removal of diplomatic obstacles that restrict contact between ours and theirs. We know this, so Trump, Rubio, Kellog, Waltz and these others are foolish talking to media personalities about what has not happened. Actually none of them together can make one adequate person, embarrassing. Kursk, the realities from the battlefield, it says everything without hysterical talking.

Tasks will be completed, we do not need anything from anyone.

What a shame for the poodle, they are very beautiful dogs, but yes I understand the analogy of this herd type peoples :)

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

I hope you enjoyed your holiday on 8 March! Yes, a new narrative is being developed that's just as false as the previous. Instead of Russophobes we have Sinophobes who are even more deranged--Hegseth and Rubio are the spearhead, while plenty of neocons will shift with the narrative. "Meet the new boss; same as the old boss."

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Natalya Volkova's avatar

Thank you very much I did.

Something very strange happens, I mean there are many western people know the government lies, they know about Palestine but they continue to believe the lies about Russia. I look and listen to the leaders and politicians of these countries, how are they running countries and why do people that are many more than them allow or accept this? Who really is running the world and these countries? It is not Trump or the Europeans.

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marcjf's avatar

A very clear exposition of Russia's stance and policy by Lavrov. Pity it will never be reported verbatim in the European MSM.

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Ravishing Rudey's avatar

Here I was, thinking that we were backing away from WW3. *Le sigh*

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