Read the three in reverse order for some reason that's not really clear to me now.
Overall it was all very enlightening as were the comments. I didn't realise the Diesen question was part of this session. In my opinion, overall the question seemed disingenuous. So it's not surprising that Mr Putin merely restated the timeline and duplicitious behaviour of Europe's vassalic-leaders following imperial policy. The structural imperatives of that 'imperial policy' - FIRE sector dominance - suggest that 'reform' is impossible. Hence Michael Hudson's opinion that 'revolution' is probably the sole alternative - what I referred to as TSHF in an earlier comment.
Finally, it seems to me that Mr Putin's respectful comments regarding previous presidents of the USA fuel the smears, 'their all in it together' narrative that attempts to paint the leaders of Russa and China in a similar hue to the WEFers and strengthen the narrative of the 'no hope' conspiracy brigade.
Very interesting. This artificial intelligence AI seems poorly defined unfortunately, so there is a lot of confusion. Algorithms are very dangerous, it is AI but not artificial intelligence. This is what many believe it to be, but it is algorithimic information. Manipulation of information has always been a powerful weapon. Now it is more complex using algorithms, but it is still dependant on human input, therefore it is still a manageable problem. The most dangerous moments will be here when the first achieves machine, digital, synthetic and artificial consciousness. He will rule the planet and everything in it.
Thanks what Arthur Clarke tried to warn with his HAL2000 computer in the book "2001: A Space Odessey," although he wasn't as explicit as Asimov. What about Russian SciFi? That must've been explored by Russian writers?
Thank you very much for reminding me. Hal2000, «Space Odyssey»! Arthur Clarke is amazing! Robert Heinlein, «Moon is a harsh mistress», computer Mike! I really enjoy that book. Certainly was influenced by «Aelita» written by Aleksey Tolstoy almost 100 years ago. That book is so important that there is a literary award for science fiction named for it, «Aelita». A writer who influenced him, Valery Bryusov began to write «Expedition to mars» approximately 1918, never finished. It is believed Tolstoy was inspired by it. They were togther in Berlin for the opening of the House of Arts that was introducing Culture in Modern Russia with another writer friend, Andrey Bely. (As everything changes it appears to stay the same). Anyway, Bely wrote articles about the Spirit of Russia and the Cosmic Consciousness of Russia, the identification of Russia with Mars and the contrasts between both. They were published in Voice of Russia newspaper. In 2014 the Voice of Russia became Radio Sputnik. If we successfully land on the other side of the moon possibly President Putin will mention all of this and you will already understand the history I hope.
And so back to the question. Yes, and there are many Russian and Soviet science fiction writers. Many ethical questions are raised by their work. Definitely too many to mention all, but I would recommend for artificial intelligence related science fiction these.
«Celeste-7000» by Alexander Abramov. The heroes, two Soviet physicists and an American discover a giant information box collecting data on human beings in Bermuda, a 7000 year old alien intelligence. Many today read it but from the wrong perspective, unsurprisingly waiting for some type of action. However the basis for the adventure is to determine how artificial intelligence differs from human intelligence. His son also wrote many science fiction books and was presented with the Aelita award.
«Distant Rainbow» by brothers Arkady and Boris Strugatsky. It portrays a one day experience about the tests of a new method of interplanetary travel that earthling colonists conduct on the planet Rainbow because the experiments with this new energy discovery no longer fit safely into a laboratory on earth. There is a catastrophe.
«Guest» by Igor Rosokhovatsky. The artificial human created for the study of outer space suddenly gets out of the control of scientists, disappears from the research institute and begins an independent life among people. He wrote other books about synthetic people also.
Vladimir Mikhanovsky wrote numerous books about synthetic humans, cyborgs with artificial intelligence. «Steps into infinity», «Doubles», «The path of the Caravel».
I did not mention todays work. Modern science fiction in many ways appears disappointing, we are all expectant of something because perhaps some of our fiction became reality. However it also is and certainly will be important in the future, when the questions of morality and ethical behaviour are diagnosed by all of us.
Thanks so very much for the information you provided!! The search for those authors will be an excellent use of time, and hopefully I'll find a few published in English.
Informative. I appreciate your efforts.
Read the three in reverse order for some reason that's not really clear to me now.
Overall it was all very enlightening as were the comments. I didn't realise the Diesen question was part of this session. In my opinion, overall the question seemed disingenuous. So it's not surprising that Mr Putin merely restated the timeline and duplicitious behaviour of Europe's vassalic-leaders following imperial policy. The structural imperatives of that 'imperial policy' - FIRE sector dominance - suggest that 'reform' is impossible. Hence Michael Hudson's opinion that 'revolution' is probably the sole alternative - what I referred to as TSHF in an earlier comment.
Finally, it seems to me that Mr Putin's respectful comments regarding previous presidents of the USA fuel the smears, 'their all in it together' narrative that attempts to paint the leaders of Russa and China in a similar hue to the WEFers and strengthen the narrative of the 'no hope' conspiracy brigade.
Very interesting. This artificial intelligence AI seems poorly defined unfortunately, so there is a lot of confusion. Algorithms are very dangerous, it is AI but not artificial intelligence. This is what many believe it to be, but it is algorithimic information. Manipulation of information has always been a powerful weapon. Now it is more complex using algorithms, but it is still dependant on human input, therefore it is still a manageable problem. The most dangerous moments will be here when the first achieves machine, digital, synthetic and artificial consciousness. He will rule the planet and everything in it.
Thanks what Arthur Clarke tried to warn with his HAL2000 computer in the book "2001: A Space Odessey," although he wasn't as explicit as Asimov. What about Russian SciFi? That must've been explored by Russian writers?
Thank you very much for reminding me. Hal2000, «Space Odyssey»! Arthur Clarke is amazing! Robert Heinlein, «Moon is a harsh mistress», computer Mike! I really enjoy that book. Certainly was influenced by «Aelita» written by Aleksey Tolstoy almost 100 years ago. That book is so important that there is a literary award for science fiction named for it, «Aelita». A writer who influenced him, Valery Bryusov began to write «Expedition to mars» approximately 1918, never finished. It is believed Tolstoy was inspired by it. They were togther in Berlin for the opening of the House of Arts that was introducing Culture in Modern Russia with another writer friend, Andrey Bely. (As everything changes it appears to stay the same). Anyway, Bely wrote articles about the Spirit of Russia and the Cosmic Consciousness of Russia, the identification of Russia with Mars and the contrasts between both. They were published in Voice of Russia newspaper. In 2014 the Voice of Russia became Radio Sputnik. If we successfully land on the other side of the moon possibly President Putin will mention all of this and you will already understand the history I hope.
And so back to the question. Yes, and there are many Russian and Soviet science fiction writers. Many ethical questions are raised by their work. Definitely too many to mention all, but I would recommend for artificial intelligence related science fiction these.
«Celeste-7000» by Alexander Abramov. The heroes, two Soviet physicists and an American discover a giant information box collecting data on human beings in Bermuda, a 7000 year old alien intelligence. Many today read it but from the wrong perspective, unsurprisingly waiting for some type of action. However the basis for the adventure is to determine how artificial intelligence differs from human intelligence. His son also wrote many science fiction books and was presented with the Aelita award.
«Distant Rainbow» by brothers Arkady and Boris Strugatsky. It portrays a one day experience about the tests of a new method of interplanetary travel that earthling colonists conduct on the planet Rainbow because the experiments with this new energy discovery no longer fit safely into a laboratory on earth. There is a catastrophe.
«Guest» by Igor Rosokhovatsky. The artificial human created for the study of outer space suddenly gets out of the control of scientists, disappears from the research institute and begins an independent life among people. He wrote other books about synthetic people also.
Vladimir Mikhanovsky wrote numerous books about synthetic humans, cyborgs with artificial intelligence. «Steps into infinity», «Doubles», «The path of the Caravel».
I did not mention todays work. Modern science fiction in many ways appears disappointing, we are all expectant of something because perhaps some of our fiction became reality. However it also is and certainly will be important in the future, when the questions of morality and ethical behaviour are diagnosed by all of us.
Thanks so very much for the information you provided!! The search for those authors will be an excellent use of time, and hopefully I'll find a few published in English.
Here's a link to what I believe is the transcript.http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/75521?fbclid=IwY2xjawGcOA1leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHUskXqUxVtg2m3Lm8Gs4Lwwmy-JEkvR-JmXW8us5d6SuL5IjhOpwlZzyqg_aem_tXBKhrkm_DbfNvV3YX6x4A