I read these items w/ a sort of amazement! With admiration! I can't imagine in a million years these kinds of open, direct, to the point, interpersonal, respectful, informed, well thought out interactive conversations going on in the U.S. today among the supposed "leaders" of our country.
What a mess we have created w/our present system of non-productive governing, pretend representative rule, no direction good for the country, gobbledygook type arguments. We should send our entire govt over to Russia to sit in at their meetings to see how it should be done.
And of course I'm not so naive. I know that we have a huge well-paid, controlled by $$$ (and probably threats/blackmail/etc), 5th column that has infiltrated our "government" at all levels, including agencies and NGOs, who do not have the good of our country or of WeThePeople in mind, but quite the opposite.
Perhaps we can become more like Russia some day (I can hardly believe I'd be saying that looking back at how I looked at the USSR and then even Russia 20, 30, 40 years ago ... I was brainwashed like the rest of the West ... though always wondering if what I read was true ... it obviously wasn't) ... but first we need to restore our country morally, philosophically, monetarily, politically.
We need representatives FOR the people at every level, all the way to the top, NOT politicians. There need to be indictments, prosecutions ... ?hangings and firing squads? ... a cleansing of this 5th column.
And I could go on for pages ... so I'll stop here.
Your frustrations are well shared by millions. The problem is the 5th column you refer to has entrenched itself within government and the elite for many generations, since the 1870s if not before. Was there ever a time within US history where good governance put the interests of people first, if not nationally then at least at the municipal level? The answer is yes, but the where and who are swept under the rug--Milwaukee, Wisconsin during its governance by its socialist government. Yes, you read that right, but you'll need to dig deep to find the facts.
Thanks Karl, great read and it demonstrates the potential for achievement in a mixed economy with central planning and open discourse. Contrast this gathering with the faux 'business discussions' in the west and it is shocking how estranged neo liberal economics has led us away from intelligent, considered, open discussion/exploration in the interests of the common good and national purpose. What a tragedy for all those mixed economy nations that are now miserable lackeys of the USA.
The suggestion box is big in Russia, and that forum isn't the only place its opened at. I count more than a dozen such events annually where not just specific organization as with this event but the general public get an opportunity to make policy. And then there're the local events that happen at the municipal and regional levels where that happens too. And guess who tells Russians to speak up? Putin, and he also says tell us about your problems so they can be solved. Given performance, you'd think Russia has common sense under lock and key so the West can't find it.
Thank you Karl. I am about to leap in to the entire text but must mention Howard Zinn, 'A People's History of the United States' as far as I recall. Its a startup reader when it comes to the long road of learning of the Working Class in the USA and the persistent efforts to crush organised labor. I would occasionally reference it an quote from it when I frequented MOA as it is always worth reminding.
You'll have noted the head of Russia's Trade Unions was given time to speak and Putin's strong rhetoric regarding who all this work is being done for. Business's position that they need to be involved in the training of specialists and mentors--that advancing the proletariat's abilities also advances their business and is in their interests--is what's missing from most Western business attitudes, and China has a similar POV.
This is another extremely interesting post, once again full of surprises
The degrees of co ordination withing which the competing elements are yet made clear, the claims on reseurces and on company contributions to socials goods, the hints of the redevelopment program in the Donbass (are there any sources of info about this?) and the rise of exhibition culture and social events based around real life professions and interests
On Donbas reconstruction, local government and media will have info, and Putin's last meeting with its governor will have reviewed the program. The Russian ethos that large business owe contributions to the social welfare of the regions where they operate is something the West lacks utterly and would be an excellent topic for a monograph requiring research within Russia. The idea put forward at the end to use advertising for the dissemination of social news reeked of Western style Narrative propaganda and "1984" and provided a shallow look at Russia's related laws. The advancement of all things quantum is rather exciting, but as stated lacks specialists as does almost every area. Big challenges.
I read these items w/ a sort of amazement! With admiration! I can't imagine in a million years these kinds of open, direct, to the point, interpersonal, respectful, informed, well thought out interactive conversations going on in the U.S. today among the supposed "leaders" of our country.
What a mess we have created w/our present system of non-productive governing, pretend representative rule, no direction good for the country, gobbledygook type arguments. We should send our entire govt over to Russia to sit in at their meetings to see how it should be done.
And of course I'm not so naive. I know that we have a huge well-paid, controlled by $$$ (and probably threats/blackmail/etc), 5th column that has infiltrated our "government" at all levels, including agencies and NGOs, who do not have the good of our country or of WeThePeople in mind, but quite the opposite.
Perhaps we can become more like Russia some day (I can hardly believe I'd be saying that looking back at how I looked at the USSR and then even Russia 20, 30, 40 years ago ... I was brainwashed like the rest of the West ... though always wondering if what I read was true ... it obviously wasn't) ... but first we need to restore our country morally, philosophically, monetarily, politically.
We need representatives FOR the people at every level, all the way to the top, NOT politicians. There need to be indictments, prosecutions ... ?hangings and firing squads? ... a cleansing of this 5th column.
And I could go on for pages ... so I'll stop here.
Your frustrations are well shared by millions. The problem is the 5th column you refer to has entrenched itself within government and the elite for many generations, since the 1870s if not before. Was there ever a time within US history where good governance put the interests of people first, if not nationally then at least at the municipal level? The answer is yes, but the where and who are swept under the rug--Milwaukee, Wisconsin during its governance by its socialist government. Yes, you read that right, but you'll need to dig deep to find the facts.
Thanks Karl, great read and it demonstrates the potential for achievement in a mixed economy with central planning and open discourse. Contrast this gathering with the faux 'business discussions' in the west and it is shocking how estranged neo liberal economics has led us away from intelligent, considered, open discussion/exploration in the interests of the common good and national purpose. What a tragedy for all those mixed economy nations that are now miserable lackeys of the USA.
The suggestion box is big in Russia, and that forum isn't the only place its opened at. I count more than a dozen such events annually where not just specific organization as with this event but the general public get an opportunity to make policy. And then there're the local events that happen at the municipal and regional levels where that happens too. And guess who tells Russians to speak up? Putin, and he also says tell us about your problems so they can be solved. Given performance, you'd think Russia has common sense under lock and key so the West can't find it.
Thank you Karl. I am about to leap in to the entire text but must mention Howard Zinn, 'A People's History of the United States' as far as I recall. Its a startup reader when it comes to the long road of learning of the Working Class in the USA and the persistent efforts to crush organised labor. I would occasionally reference it an quote from it when I frequented MOA as it is always worth reminding.
You'll have noted the head of Russia's Trade Unions was given time to speak and Putin's strong rhetoric regarding who all this work is being done for. Business's position that they need to be involved in the training of specialists and mentors--that advancing the proletariat's abilities also advances their business and is in their interests--is what's missing from most Western business attitudes, and China has a similar POV.
This is another extremely interesting post, once again full of surprises
The degrees of co ordination withing which the competing elements are yet made clear, the claims on reseurces and on company contributions to socials goods, the hints of the redevelopment program in the Donbass (are there any sources of info about this?) and the rise of exhibition culture and social events based around real life professions and interests
Thank you for this
On Donbas reconstruction, local government and media will have info, and Putin's last meeting with its governor will have reviewed the program. The Russian ethos that large business owe contributions to the social welfare of the regions where they operate is something the West lacks utterly and would be an excellent topic for a monograph requiring research within Russia. The idea put forward at the end to use advertising for the dissemination of social news reeked of Western style Narrative propaganda and "1984" and provided a shallow look at Russia's related laws. The advancement of all things quantum is rather exciting, but as stated lacks specialists as does almost every area. Big challenges.