Putin exults in detail and continually checks his understandings with his experts. He challenges his ignorance. Amazing.
Titov: "we have to analyze trends in the development of modern technologies, determine, build forecasts, and calculate the probability of using certain means. And already on the basis of these data, conduct your own analytical and experimental research, develop equipment, test it, and apply it."
A lucid epitome of ACTION RESEARCH as opposed to teleological dead reckoning, deterministic mental ballistics, setting a target and going straight at it with no intermediate feedback and course correction. In social and political development this performative distinction is essential, and is why the Chinese and Russians can build a mutualist/socialist polity to ensure the comprehensive individual, familial and communal wellbeing of all their people as the universal norm. And why the Western religiously neoliberal autocracies can't. In these publicly austere, privately bountiful, suffocating systems everybody has to pay their owners for their lives, whereas in mutualist societies people's lives are free to live, communally guaranteed.
On mentoring: competing with your colleagues or trying to control them is absurd and flies in the face of a fundamental principle of mutualism: 'Help each other out, don't do each other down.' Mentoring is core helping out.
Karl: [Russia] "an outstanding system of education that has as its goal of ensuring every Russian is employable in the field of a person's choice and merit." Socio-educational mutualism.
Bit off thread but suspect that much Russian research on the changing Arctic. Brief summary:
An Arctic 'beyond recognition' by 2100
What's coming for the fastest-warming region of Earth?
Based on the current pledges of countries for limiting their emissions of greenhouse gases, global temperatures are projected to reach 2.7 degrees Celsius beyond pre-industrial levels by the end of this century. A new review paper highlights how this would dramatically reshape the Arctic, the fastest-warming region of Earth.
... "The Arctic is warming at four times the rate of the rest of the planet," said Stroeve. "At 2.7 degrees Celsius of global warming, we will see more extreme and cascading impacts in this region than elsewhere, including sea-ice-free Arctic summers, accelerated melting of the Greenland Ice Sheet, widespread permafrost loss, and more extreme air temperatures. These changes will devastate infrastructure, ecosystems, vulnerable communities, and wildlife."
As ar as I've seen, Russia has the most balanced research and government policy on the issue. Unfortunately, the West has shutdown the Arctic Council. From what I'm reading, the focus on Antarctica is warranted, and Russia just finished building a new Vostok Station there that shows its commitment to its study.
That's the reason, the Russians building ice breakers like crazy.
The Russians are about Science. Not about ScienceTM ideology. You can't extrapolate next day's temperature from today's time span (4 pm → 10 pm) - it's getting colder, so tomorrow must be even colder ... The same holds for annual cycles, for multidecadal oscillations in oceanic currents, solar activity, Milankovich cycles, or more sporadic volcanic activity. There is no way, to determine the direction of climate development that far ahead.
BTW, the Earth is since about 32 Myears in an ice age - it is called "Late Cenozoic Ice Age" and MiniTru has not yet erased geological knowledge from the dump of wisdom, i.e. wikipedia. Time to get some warmth back :D
Thanks for reply. I'm somewhat in awe of the Arctic - and the people who have made it their home for eons. And of course, Cro-Magnon man settled in Ireland -fossil record - but were wiped out by an Ice Age. Took a while before the hunter-gatherers arrived and longer for the Anatolian farmers to migrate across Europe .... then the Celts arrived and the rest is history up to now ....
Russia is making a road map for the USSA to follow, but unfortunately we haven't anyone in government wise enough to see it. Until this country repents of its Godlessness and Israel worship we are doomed.
The following is a comment reply I wrote at MoA regarding how the US Schools system is a clusterfuck:
Sorry I wasn't explicit enough. The point under discussion is public education below the university level, which as I noted existed prior to 1783's Treaty of Paris. The Constitution pointedly says nothing about education. Many other nations had no public education at that time either. The further point is that most nations have a unitary national system, not 51 different systems all with different standards. Tying together testing and funding was the way for the Feds to get a wedge into state education policies.
"If American companies are unable to export to China, then their profits will be down, and <b>they will lack the money to engage in the research and development they need to keep up with the technology that the rest of the world is doing</b>." [My Emphasis]
The point of my last two articles was to again show that Russia has a deeply integrated R&D structure that marries the state, business and the entire educational system so their companies don't need to rely on profits to do R&D. The Outlaw US Empire once had such institutions that aided private sector R&D, but the Neoliberals killed them--both government and private. And this Tech Gap is growing wider weekly. Russia intends to devote 2% of its GDP to scientific R&D by 2030, and that doesn't include what the private sector will contribute. And at the base of it all is an outstanding system of education that has as its goal of ensuring every Russian is employable in the field of a person's choice and merit. The Outlaw US Empire is very far away from having anything like that system, and there's zero talk that it's the primary need if any sort of MAGA is to have a chance. This major detail shows that neither Trump nor the Ds have any vision of how to stabilize the declining Empire.
"The point of my last two articles was to again show that Russia has a deeply integrated R&D structure that marries the state, business and the entire educational system so their companies don't need to rely on profits to do R&D. "
I’m assuming it’s very similar. The hard core of fundamental science research is done at state facilities and promoted via state-owned corporations, or it gets into the private sector via public-private partnerships that are vastly different from the Western version. I’d like to focus more on China, but their system isn’t as transparent as Russia’s.
Just posted the following on MOA - re NYT propaganda piece: China but also useful re US, RF, & Iran
Deepseek and AI conference in Paris - hence NYT puerile propaganda
# On Russian STEM see recent on kalofi subtrack
# fyi
The Global Distribution of STEM Graduates: Which Countries Lead the Way?
Brendan Oliss, Cole McFaul, and Jaret C. Riddick
November 27, 2023
... Throughout most of the 20th century, the United States and Europe—particularly Russia, Germany, the UK, and France—were considered the global centers of scientific and technological education. In the last few decades, however, new players have emerged. In Asia, countries like China, India, South Korea, and Japan rapidly expanded their STEM education programs and today produce significant numbers of graduates in STEM fields.
Figure 1 below shows the top eleven countries by number of STEM graduates in 2020. To perform this analysis, we draw on national education data and rely on the International Standard Classification Education framework developed by the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO), as well as the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development’s designation of STEM fields. We further describe our approach to this study in the “Methods” section below.
Figure 1 reveals a new shift in the global distribution of STEM graduates compared to the 2016 World Economic Forum report. The WEF report identified China, India, the United States, Russia, Iran, Indonesia, and Japan as the top seven STEM graduate-producing countries in the world. As of 2020, however, we find that Brazil and Mexico surpassed Iran and Japan in the number of graduates in STEM fields.
[see Figure 1] China 3.57m; India 2.55m; USA 820K; Russian Federation 520K
# % total graduates in STEM fields: China 41%; Russia 37%; Germany 36%; Iran 33% ;
And that was with 2020 data before Covid made a mess of things. But then, how many are post-STEM continuing learners further honing their skills and I don’t mean post-grad studies as those students get MAs and PhDs and are included in the initial cadre count. Russia’s linkage of business with university and engineering schools to provide ongoing skill honing is the path IMO. Plus rotation from work to teaching to work is another excellent path. And thanks for the plug!
Fully agree on University/Business linkages - this has had some success in Ireland and Denmark in the 'Technological Unis' - with which I'm somewhat familiar.
2020 was best I could find on quick search.
As for the 'plug' you are more than welcome! This is a very good RF related site - credit where credit is due etc.!
"... partners in space": Chinese?
Putin exults in detail and continually checks his understandings with his experts. He challenges his ignorance. Amazing.
Titov: "we have to analyze trends in the development of modern technologies, determine, build forecasts, and calculate the probability of using certain means. And already on the basis of these data, conduct your own analytical and experimental research, develop equipment, test it, and apply it."
A lucid epitome of ACTION RESEARCH as opposed to teleological dead reckoning, deterministic mental ballistics, setting a target and going straight at it with no intermediate feedback and course correction. In social and political development this performative distinction is essential, and is why the Chinese and Russians can build a mutualist/socialist polity to ensure the comprehensive individual, familial and communal wellbeing of all their people as the universal norm. And why the Western religiously neoliberal autocracies can't. In these publicly austere, privately bountiful, suffocating systems everybody has to pay their owners for their lives, whereas in mutualist societies people's lives are free to live, communally guaranteed.
On mentoring: competing with your colleagues or trying to control them is absurd and flies in the face of a fundamental principle of mutualism: 'Help each other out, don't do each other down.' Mentoring is core helping out.
Karl: [Russia] "an outstanding system of education that has as its goal of ensuring every Russian is employable in the field of a person's choice and merit." Socio-educational mutualism.
Yes, the system is superior, but few know t and why. At least some are earning via my efforts.
Bit off thread but suspect that much Russian research on the changing Arctic. Brief summary:
An Arctic 'beyond recognition' by 2100
What's coming for the fastest-warming region of Earth?
Based on the current pledges of countries for limiting their emissions of greenhouse gases, global temperatures are projected to reach 2.7 degrees Celsius beyond pre-industrial levels by the end of this century. A new review paper highlights how this would dramatically reshape the Arctic, the fastest-warming region of Earth.
... "The Arctic is warming at four times the rate of the rest of the planet," said Stroeve. "At 2.7 degrees Celsius of global warming, we will see more extreme and cascading impacts in this region than elsewhere, including sea-ice-free Arctic summers, accelerated melting of the Greenland Ice Sheet, widespread permafrost loss, and more extreme air temperatures. These changes will devastate infrastructure, ecosystems, vulnerable communities, and wildlife."
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/02/250207152721.htm
As ar as I've seen, Russia has the most balanced research and government policy on the issue. Unfortunately, the West has shutdown the Arctic Council. From what I'm reading, the focus on Antarctica is warranted, and Russia just finished building a new Vostok Station there that shows its commitment to its study.
That's the reason, the Russians building ice breakers like crazy.
The Russians are about Science. Not about ScienceTM ideology. You can't extrapolate next day's temperature from today's time span (4 pm → 10 pm) - it's getting colder, so tomorrow must be even colder ... The same holds for annual cycles, for multidecadal oscillations in oceanic currents, solar activity, Milankovich cycles, or more sporadic volcanic activity. There is no way, to determine the direction of climate development that far ahead.
BTW, the Earth is since about 32 Myears in an ice age - it is called "Late Cenozoic Ice Age" and MiniTru has not yet erased geological knowledge from the dump of wisdom, i.e. wikipedia. Time to get some warmth back :D
Thanks for reply. I'm somewhat in awe of the Arctic - and the people who have made it their home for eons. And of course, Cro-Magnon man settled in Ireland -fossil record - but were wiped out by an Ice Age. Took a while before the hunter-gatherers arrived and longer for the Anatolian farmers to migrate across Europe .... then the Celts arrived and the rest is history up to now ....
Here’re two links you might like, https://dnnlgwick.blob.core.windows.net/portals/0/NWCDepartments/Russia%20Maritime%20Studies%20Institute/20201026_ENG_RUS_Arctic%20Strategy2035_final.pdf?sv=2017-04-17&sr=b&si=DNNFileManagerPolicy&sig=JPiKWVeEv99KKXlrD599Z4zzdhZLpt2omVYXicVPvI0%3D
https://arctic-russia.ru/en/
Thanks Karl. D.
This has a short video of the new Vostok Station, https://sputnikglobe.com/20240128/putin-launches-new-complex-of-vostok-station-in-antarctica-1116449100.html?ysclid=m6zw0g5rnn397030948
Russia is making a road map for the USSA to follow, but unfortunately we haven't anyone in government wise enough to see it. Until this country repents of its Godlessness and Israel worship we are doomed.
The following is a comment reply I wrote at MoA regarding how the US Schools system is a clusterfuck:
Sorry I wasn't explicit enough. The point under discussion is public education below the university level, which as I noted existed prior to 1783's Treaty of Paris. The Constitution pointedly says nothing about education. Many other nations had no public education at that time either. The further point is that most nations have a unitary national system, not 51 different systems all with different standards. Tying together testing and funding was the way for the Feds to get a wedge into state education policies.
In his https://michael-hudson.com/2025/02/american-imperialism-in-plain-site interview with Norton, Hudson notes this truth:
"If American companies are unable to export to China, then their profits will be down, and <b>they will lack the money to engage in the research and development they need to keep up with the technology that the rest of the world is doing</b>." [My Emphasis]
The point of my last two articles was to again show that Russia has a deeply integrated R&D structure that marries the state, business and the entire educational system so their companies don't need to rely on profits to do R&D. The Outlaw US Empire once had such institutions that aided private sector R&D, but the Neoliberals killed them--both government and private. And this Tech Gap is growing wider weekly. Russia intends to devote 2% of its GDP to scientific R&D by 2030, and that doesn't include what the private sector will contribute. And at the base of it all is an outstanding system of education that has as its goal of ensuring every Russian is employable in the field of a person's choice and merit. The Outlaw US Empire is very far away from having anything like that system, and there's zero talk that it's the primary need if any sort of MAGA is to have a chance. This major detail shows that neither Trump nor the Ds have any vision of how to stabilize the declining Empire.
"The point of my last two articles was to again show that Russia has a deeply integrated R&D structure that marries the state, business and the entire educational system so their companies don't need to rely on profits to do R&D. "
How similar is this broad structure to China's?
On mentoring - I fully agree - from experience.
I’m assuming it’s very similar. The hard core of fundamental science research is done at state facilities and promoted via state-owned corporations, or it gets into the private sector via public-private partnerships that are vastly different from the Western version. I’d like to focus more on China, but their system isn’t as transparent as Russia’s.
Just posted the following on MOA - re NYT propaganda piece: China but also useful re US, RF, & Iran
Deepseek and AI conference in Paris - hence NYT puerile propaganda
# On Russian STEM see recent on kalofi subtrack
# fyi
The Global Distribution of STEM Graduates: Which Countries Lead the Way?
Brendan Oliss, Cole McFaul, and Jaret C. Riddick
November 27, 2023
... Throughout most of the 20th century, the United States and Europe—particularly Russia, Germany, the UK, and France—were considered the global centers of scientific and technological education. In the last few decades, however, new players have emerged. In Asia, countries like China, India, South Korea, and Japan rapidly expanded their STEM education programs and today produce significant numbers of graduates in STEM fields.
Figure 1 below shows the top eleven countries by number of STEM graduates in 2020. To perform this analysis, we draw on national education data and rely on the International Standard Classification Education framework developed by the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO), as well as the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development’s designation of STEM fields. We further describe our approach to this study in the “Methods” section below.
Figure 1 reveals a new shift in the global distribution of STEM graduates compared to the 2016 World Economic Forum report. The WEF report identified China, India, the United States, Russia, Iran, Indonesia, and Japan as the top seven STEM graduate-producing countries in the world. As of 2020, however, we find that Brazil and Mexico surpassed Iran and Japan in the number of graduates in STEM fields.
[see Figure 1] China 3.57m; India 2.55m; USA 820K; Russian Federation 520K
# % total graduates in STEM fields: China 41%; Russia 37%; Germany 36%; Iran 33% ;
.......... India 30%; ........ USA 20%
https://cset.georgetown.edu/article/the-global-distribution-of-stem-graduates-which-countries-lead-the-way/
Nuff said!
Posted by: Don Firineach | Feb 11 2025 1:05 utc | 158
And that was with 2020 data before Covid made a mess of things. But then, how many are post-STEM continuing learners further honing their skills and I don’t mean post-grad studies as those students get MAs and PhDs and are included in the initial cadre count. Russia’s linkage of business with university and engineering schools to provide ongoing skill honing is the path IMO. Plus rotation from work to teaching to work is another excellent path. And thanks for the plug!
Fully agree on University/Business linkages - this has had some success in Ireland and Denmark in the 'Technological Unis' - with which I'm somewhat familiar.
2020 was best I could find on quick search.
As for the 'plug' you are more than welcome! This is a very good RF related site - credit where credit is due etc.!