Putin's Discussion with Pobeda Committee

Pobeda is Russian for Victory

After his meeting with Erdogan yesterday, Putin met via video with the Pobeda Commitee, which is described by the Kremlin as “the Russian Organizing Committee ‘Victory.’” It will become clear as you read why it’s an organizing committee and what it organizes for: The Great Patriotic War Victory. 2025 marks the 80th anniversary of Victory, although Putin notes immediately that 2023 marks the 80th anniversary of the critical battles that turned the tide, and that’s what most of the discussion’s about. The present is also tied into the past during the discussion, which is an important point. Russia has decided it doesn’t need to conduct a further mobilization because it’s getting roughly 40,000 new contract enlistments monthly that will total about 440,000 by year end. And this is at a time when wages are rising, unemployment is a historical low, and social benefits are better than ever. Why so many volunteers is partially answered in the following discussion:

Vladimir Putin: Dear colleagues, good afternoon!

I welcome you to the 46th meeting of the Russian Victory Organizing Committee.

This year marks the 80th anniversary of the most important battles of the Great Patriotic War and the entire Second World War, the crucial battles of Stalingrad and Kursk, and the liberation of the Caucasus and Donbass.

There is another significant anniversary. In August 1943, a decree was issued "On urgent measures to restore the economy in the areas liberated from German occupation." A large-scale revival of the infrastructure of our cities, villages and villages has begun.

The enemy has not yet been driven out of the country, but military enterprises have also begun to increase the production of tractors, seed drills, civilian equipment for factories, for the construction industry – everything that was necessary to overcome the devastation and the consequences of the war.

I believe that the contribution of enterprises to solving this problem should also be taken into account when considering applications for the honorary title "City of Labor Valor".

80 years ago, the patronage movement of rear cities over the liberated territories was also launched, and funds were created to help people who lived there. And all this, of course, is very consonant with the current situation.

The special military operation continues, but many regions, major Russian cities, and businesses are once again taking patronage of facilities and even entire localities in the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics, Zaporizhia, and the Kherson region.

Large resources are being spent on building new homes, schools, hospitals, and roads. Humanitarian aid is being delivered to residents from all over the country.

I would like to sincerely thank all those who take part in this work, in this activity: volunteers, state, private and public organizations, including the recently established Defenders of the Fatherland Foundation. Its branches are open in all regions of the country, and participants of the special military operation and their relatives apply there for social support, legal and other necessary assistance.

The regions of the Russian Federation are also implementing their own additional programs to support veterans and families of our heroes.

But what would you like to say here? It is important to give equal rights to all, I want to emphasize this, to all participants of a special military operation without exception: both regular military personnel, and volunteers, contract soldiers, mobilized and law enforcement officers who take part in a special military operation. Our guys are fighting heroically, some of them are giving their lives for Russia. Both they and their family members should be provided with all the benefits and support measures required for participants in the operation, including the status of a combatant. This is a matter of justice, recognition of the special merits of the defenders of the Motherland.

Dear colleagues!

The 80th anniversary of the Great Victory is approaching. We must celebrate this date not just vividly and solemnly. The main task is to fill all events with deep content, and you need to prepare them now.

We will definitely discuss this topic in detail and discuss these issues at one of the next meetings of our organizing committee. But I would like to mention one project and offer it today.

A few years ago, the exhibition "One Hundred Rarities of Russian Statehood" was held in Moscow, in the Manege. The Federal Archive Agency presented unique original documents reflecting the most important milestones of the national history. Many of them left the archive vaults for the first time. Even for people who are passionate about history, the exhibition was almost a sensation.

I propose to prepare such a project on the topic of the Great Patriotic War. Collect artifacts based on key events: from the first battles on the border to the hoisting of the Red Banner of Victory over defeated Berlin, resonant Stavka orders and siege diaries of Leningrad residents, acts of surrender of Germany and Japan.

For the depth of perception, you can also place captured documents. I think that a strong reminder to those who have forgotten history will be the demonstration of orders from the Nazi command about the barbaric treatment of Soviet prisoners of war and civilians, documents about the crimes of Hitler's accomplices and various collaborators.

A lot of work is being done to investigate Nazi crimes in the occupied territories within the framework of the "No Statute of Limitations" project. Many files held by the FSB and the Defense Ministry have been removed from the secrecy category, and they should be accessible to citizens.

Authentic documents are the most convincing arguments. An open display of archival materials is a worthy response to those who today are at war with the past, consciously – in order to please the political situation of today, often personal ambitions-distort history.

Now, as you know, there are many such people, there are representatives of this movement, to put it mildly, and in the same Europe, in which many people have completely lost both their memory and conscience.

The world's attitude to events related to the prerequisites for the outbreak of the Second World War, its course and results, largely gives an understanding of modern processes. And the new meanings and challenges of the time clearly show that in 1945 Nazism was defeated, but, unfortunately, it will not be outlived-it is again manifested in the same Russophobia or anti-Semitism, and the glorification of Nazi criminals, direct propaganda of Nazism in the Baltic countries, in Ukraine in general have become the norm. It was as if Nuremberg had never existed. There are no international laws prohibiting such actions.

Moreover, history has been used as a weapon of ideological struggle, and we need an adequate defense tool that can not only repel, but also prevent any attacks of this kind.

Veterans, historians, and search engines, with whom I have met many times, have repeatedly spoken about the need for this. The proposal to create a National center of Historical Memory has been repeatedly made. I asked you to work on this issue and address it. Today I would like to hear about the results.

I think we need such a center. Relevant instructions will be given following today's meeting. I ask you to promptly resolve all organizational and financial issues without any delay.

Let's move on to today's agenda. Please, please.

Andrey Turchak: Mr President, good afternoon!

United Russia has been participating in the implementation of your initiative to award the honorary title of "City of Labor Valor" from the very first days, and since 2020 we have been holding a popular vote in favor of candidate cities, helping with the registration of necessary documents, and processing appeals from enterprise collectives, initiative groups, veterans ' councils, and public organizations.

Indeed, such initiatives bring people together, instill in young people an additional interest in history. In cities that have already been awarded the honorary title, United Russia, together with the Russian Military Historical Society, is working to determine the places of installation of memorial stelae, and we are working together with the RVIO to install them. Also, in parallel with the Ministry of Construction, we are engaged in the improvement of adjacent territories.

There are always several options offered, and the final decision on the location [of the installation] is made by people in an open vote. Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, we would like to continue this practice.

To date, out of 53 cities of labor valor, stelae of cities of military glory have been installed in 34. And today we are working in Yakutia, this morning the grand opening of the stele took place in Aldan. And, dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, the residents of the city asked me to convey their gratitude to you for recognizing the merits of the city. Veterans came up today and asked me to send you greetings, wishes of health and our common victory.

Also, together with the Ministry of Digital Development and the Russian Post, we have already issued a series of 17 postage stamps dedicated to the cities of labor valor. This year, United Russia has been working to prepare and promote new applications for this high title. Almost a million signatures were collected from residents, there were petitions from veterans ' and public organizations.

Taking into account the expert opinions of the Russian Academy of Sciences, dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, let me introduce you to ten new candidates for the title of cities of labor valor. These are Vladimir, Votkinsk, Nakhodka, Novomoskovsk, Podolsk, Prokopyevsk, Ryazan, Rubtsovsk, Ulan-Ude and Khanty-Mansiysk. Among the cities represented are both large regional centers and small towns, but all of them are united by the huge contribution of their residents to the victory, to ensuring the operation of evacuated enterprises and uninterrupted supply of the front.

On behalf of the residents who campaigned, collected signatures, and voted, I ask you, dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, to support the proposal of United Russia to award the honorary title to the ten cities I have named.

The report is finished.

Vladimir Putin: Thank you very much.

Gennady Yakovlevich, please.

G. : Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, Dear colleagues!

Today, at the meeting of the organizing committee, I would like to report to you about the expertise carried out by the Russian Academy of Sciences to award cities the honorary title "City of Labor Valor".

Awarding this title to the cities of our country is always a great event for all their residents and an important contribution to preserving the memory of the Great Patriotic War.

Over the past two years alone, 53 Russian cities have been awarded the title of "City of Labor Valor". This was preceded by a huge work of scientists, historians, and specialists who study archival materials and preserve the memory of our predecessors.

This year, the Russian Academy of Sciences received applications for the title "City of Labor Valor" in 28 cities. According to the results of a thorough examination, all of them received positive conclusions. At the same time, we propose to focus on the following ten applicants:: These are the cities of Podolsk, Vladimir, Votkinsk, Prokopyevsk, Ulan-Ude, Novomoskovsk, Ryazan, Rubtsovsk, Khanty-Mansiysk and Nakhodka.

Podolsk is a city of machine builders. Since the beginning of the war, its production facilities have been repurposed for the production of military products. It produced mortar weapons, ammunition, and armored hulls for military equipment. For this, during the war years, Podolsk enterprises were twice awarded orders, and the Podolsky Worker armored train was built at the expense of citizens.

Another city – contender for the title of city of labor valor is Vladimir. Vladimir's enterprises supplied the front with aviation equipment, special vehicles and motorcycles. During the Great Patriotic War, Vladimir factories produced ammunition of various types with a volume of 15 million units. I note that the soldiers ' medallions, which today preserve the memory of our soldiers and are a welcome find for search engines, just come from Vladimir. Here was the only company in the country for their production. The products of the Vladimir Chemical Plant were used on almost every sample of military equipment – these are insulation materials for wires.

In addition, in just a few months in 1943, a new tractor factory was built in Vladimir, which in a short period of time produced more than 500 Universal-2 tractors.

And, of course, we must pay tribute to the Vladimirites, who built the Suzdal – Nebyloe – Vladimir – Sudda defensive line in the fall of 1941.

The next contender for the title of city of labor valor is the city of Votkinsk. During the Great Patriotic War, every ninth gun came from this small Udmurt city. It is also known as an important center of metallurgy. The workers of the city sent more than 160 thousand tons of steel to the front.

The city of Prokopyevsk, Kemerovo region, gave the country and the front 31 million tons of coal. This city is associated with the names of outstanding workers of our country, including Maria Prokhorovna Kosogorova. She became one of the first female mine managers to be awarded the Order of Lenin and the Order of Labor Banners. Enterprises of Prokopyevsk were awarded the Red Banner of the State Defense Committee three times during the war years.

[I’m including some more info about this extraordinary woman:

The labor feat of the women of Kuzbass during the war years is inextricably linked with the name of Maria Prokhorovna Kosogorova. During the war, under the leadership of Maria Prokhorovna, the team of the Ziminka mine was the first in the country to receive the title of “The Best Mine of the Soviet Union”.
Maria Prokhorovna was born in Novoosibirsk. After the death of her father, she became the head of the family at the age of 16, helping her mother and two sisters.
In 1931 she entered the Tomsk Mining Institute for the field operation department, here she met her future husband. After graduating from the institute, Maria Prokhorovna, along with her husband, came to Prokopyevsk, where she got a job at the K.E. Voroshilov mine.
For competent and dynamic work in 1940, Maria Kosogorova was appointed head of a large mine Ziminka. The mine, or as they say "mouse trap", for years did not fulfill the plan, with the arrival of Maria Prokhorovna began to gain momentum. With the introduction of a new coal mining development system, N. A. Chinakala Ziminka entered the top three mines that switched to a progressive system. In 1942, for great success, the mine team received the Red Banner of the State Defense Committee.

On May 5, 1942, in the battle of Staraya Russa, her husband died in battle. Soon the older sister died, then the son tragically died. Silencing the emotional pain, Maria Prokhorovna did not leave the mine for days. She took a jackhammer in her hands and, together with the workers, went into the slaughter. In 1944, Maria Kosogorov was transferred to party work, later she went to restore the flooded mines of Donbass. After the war, she worked as deputy chief of ventilation of the Voroshilov mine in Donetsk. In 1952 she was appointed to the Ministry of Coal Industry of the USSR. The last years of her life Maria Prokhorovna spent in Donetsk. She passed away on May 31, 1992. For services to the Motherland, M.P. Kosogorov was awarded the Order of the Red Banner of Labor in 1942, and the Order of Lenin in 1943. Maria Prokhorovna is the first woman to hold the sign “Mining Glory” of three degrees. Honor and glory to all who fought on the battlefield and, sparing no effort, brought the Great Victory in the deep rear.]

Also, three times the Red Banner of the State Defense Committee was awarded to enterprises of the city of Ulan-Ude. Ulan-Ude was one of the centers of aviation and aircraft construction. 283 La-5 aircraft were built here, almost a third of this modification. Ulan-Ude is also widely known for its medical products and food preparation, especially canned meat, which was sent to the front.

The Tula city of Novomoskovsk, formerly Stalinogorsk, has two Red Banners of the State Defense Committee. It is still widely known as the center of the chemical industry. At the same time, in the autumn of 1941, the production facilities of the city's factories, which did not have time to evacuate, were blown up along with the district power plant. Residents of Novomoskovsk actually managed to restore enterprises in a year, already in October 1942 the first turbo generator was turned on at the power plant, and by the end of 1942 the chemical plant was restored.

In Novomoskovsk worked Mikhail Kabanov-the inventor of the "Molotov cocktail", which was first used in the battles near Tula and became a thunderstorm of German tanks.

The city of Rubtsovsk, Altai Krai, supplied the army with about one and a half million shells of mines and hundreds of thousands of sapper shovels in three years.

Ryazan produced more than a million mines a month during the war, which is about 20 percent of the front's demand. During the years of the Great Patriotic War, over 15 million sets of underwear and uniforms, over a million pairs of shoes were produced here.

The cities of Khanty-Mansiysk and Nakhodka became the center of fish production and processing, the main suppliers of canned fish. So, Khanty-Mansiysk provided almost half – 45 percent - of all canned fish delivered to the front.

Nakhodka also organized long-distance fishing expeditions to the coasts of Kamchatka and Sakhalin for the first time in the industry, introducing a new format of fishing. In addition, residents of Nakhodka, Primorsky Krai, also transferred significant sums to help the front. In 1942, they raised over two million rubles for the construction of the squadron.

In conclusion, I would like to note that this year's candidates for the title of "City of Labor Valor" were relatively small cities, but nevertheless they took a significant place in the system of the military-industrial complex, helped to win the victory and restore our country. Their example once again highlights the importance of each person's work for the common cause.

Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, taking into account the contribution of the residents of these cities to the achievement of the Great Victory, the Russian Academy of Sciences suggests considering the possibility of awarding them the honorary title "City of Labor Valor".

Thank you.

Vladimir Putin: Thank you very much, Gennady Yakovlevich.

Please, Student Alexander Yakovlevich.

Alexey Shkolnik: Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, dear participants of the meeting of the Russian Organizing Committee "Pobeda", good afternoon!

I welcome you from the site of the Victory Museum's exposition dedicated to the special military operation and its heroes. We considered it important to talk about our battle with the Ukrainian fascists right now. The battle may not be over yet, but it already has its own history, its own victories and its own exploits. You need to talk about them today. You can't keep silent. People really need this truth.

Today, for obvious reasons, it is impossible to reveal the history of all episodes of the special operation, this work is waiting for us ahead. I want to assure you that the Victory Museum is fully prepared to present properly every hero of the SVO, every feat, every significant event of this great battle without exaggeration.

Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, allow me to express my deep gratitude for your support for the idea of creating a National Center of Historical Memory, a center – and we are sure of it – capable of consolidating the efforts of the state and society in a big task that directly meets the tasks of implementing the National Security Strategy of the Russian Federation and the Foundations of State Policy for Preserving and Strengthening Traditional values, including, of course, historical memory [Sections 2 & 3 of the linked document] .

For the first time, the proposal to create the center was made even before the start of the Free Economic Zone. It is important to emphasize this, because even then the idea was important, but now that we have the experience of a special operation, it has acquired a very special significance.

Indeed, today history has been turned into a weapon. We are facing a new type of war that is being waged not only for the minds, but also for the souls of young people, our children and grandchildren. Therefore, we simply must create an effective tool to counter aggression of this kind. We need a platform, I would even say an operational headquarters, capable of consolidating efforts in the field of preserving historical memory, blocking attempts to falsify history and giving a worthy rebuff to the enemy.

We believe that such an operational headquarters should be the National Center of Historical Memory, which will unite the capabilities and resources of all those who consider it their duty and a matter of conscience to protect the interests of Russia and its future. The time has come. [The formation of such an institution’s been under discussion for at least a decade. This 2014 essay, “Historical Memory Policy” (in English), provides more important background on the emphasis expressed at this meeting.]

I will briefly discuss what the center will do. First of all, in accordance with the National Security Strategy of the Russian Federation, the formation of "ideological immunity" in Russian society. It will be based on the so-called knowledge base, which will be created with the participation of the scientific community. Recognized standards of perception and evaluation of major historical events and personalities will become the basis for their further dissemination and implementation in state programs that are already being successfully implemented today.

Further. All activities of the center should be focused on young people as a priority. And here it is important to achieve mass involvement of new generations in the work of preserving, protecting and "broadcasting" historical memory, including through specialized educational programs and information channels, the very creation of which can become an example of intergenerational cooperation. And of course, involving young people in collective creative work in the interests of preserving the historical heritage of our country. In fact, the center should become one of the institutes of education of children and youth.

The center's activities will certainly focus on creating a mass-produced, widely replicated information, educational and cultural product. We need to translate historical figures and facts into emotions, impressions, and beliefs. We must turn historical science, dry archival data and documents into accessible knowledge and a tool for public dialogue. To do this, the center will have to create a creative, media, scientific, and expert community that is ready to cooperate on a systematic basis. We consider it important to involve in this work direct participants of historically significant events, first of all heroes of the SVO, whose truth no one can doubt.

The following. The center, in our opinion, will definitely be associated with the design and organization of bright and resonant events. History and historical memory should become "alive", form soul experiences and become truly personal. You need a lot of such events. They may have a very different character and scale, but their construction and semantic content should be carried out from a single center, in the role of which we see the National Center of Historical Memory.

And in conclusion, about the international component of the center's activities. Historical truth, when used for good, still has a huge unifying force for the peoples of different countries, for the development of friendly and partnership relations between them. We consider international cooperation to be an absolute priority.

Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, on your instructions to establish the National Center for Historical Memory: the issue has been thoroughly studied and discussed at the interdepartmental level with the participation of civil society institutions. Our colleagues have no doubts about the relevance of creating the center. To date, drafts of the decree on the establishment of the center, its charter, program of activities and financial and economic justification have been prepared. We are ready to move on quickly.

Thank you for supporting the work we started earlier. We hope that the center will be established, registered and receive funding in 2024.

There is only one request. If possible, instruct the Office of the President of the Russian Federation to act as the founder of the National Center for Historical Memory under the President of the Russian Federation. This, by the way, is a general opinion. The Center should receive a status under the President of the Russian Federation due to its importance and the unconditional trust that society gives to structures associated with the head of state. We have previously discussed this possibility with our colleagues.

On the part of all those who took part in the implementation of this assignment, I can assure you that by the 80th anniversary of the Great Victory, Russia will have a powerful institution that will not only preserve its historical memory and effectively repel the aggression of our country's opponents and its people, but will also strengthen Russia's international authority. A full-scale launch of the center's work may become one of the main events of the anniversary year of victory in the Great Patriotic War. We are ready to work with full confidence that the country should have not only a powerful defense shield, but also a value shield. We are convinced of the unconditional victory of our Fatherland on all fronts and at all times.

Thank you.

Vladimir Putin: Alexander Yakovlevich, you have just spoken about historical memory, which is one of the key topics of our meeting today. As the director of the Federal State Institution – the Central Museum of the Great Patriotic War - you can remind us: we understand the approximate number of victims for the entire Great Patriotic War, but how many civilians were killed and destroyed by the Nazis?

A. Shkolnik: This is about several million. I know the exact figure – for example, you spoke about the contribution to the Great Victory: we had 197 million citizens before the war, in the Soviet Union, 34.5 million of them went to war in all four years, and the rest of the citizens – more than 100 million people, almost every one of them since adolescence contributed at least a small contribution to the Victory. I think that we should continue to remember this component of the great feat of all our people.

Vladimir Putin: Still, we need to understand how many people died defending their homeland in the course of the fighting, and how many civilians were injured and killed by the Nazis.

A. Shkolnik: These are millions and millions, Mr Putin.

Vladimir Putin: It is clear, millions and millions, it is obvious, but it is necessary to represent an approximate figure at least.

I would like to ask the Chief Rabbi of Russia, Mr. Berl Lazar, to remind us about the number of victims of the Holocaust in general.

Berl Lazar: What we know is definitely more than six million. It is clear that the figure of six million is preliminary. The worst part is the children who died. And you were right about anti-Semitism: not only then, but today we are seeing this surge again in Europe, in Germany. Unfortunately, we also see this in neighboring countries.

So everything you said is very correct. It is necessary to fight not only those phenomena that occur, as they say, in the political world, but first of all in the ideological one, because the ideology of Nazism is the most terrible ideology that can exist in the world.

And thank you for constantly emphasizing this and talking about it, reminding us that there is no way to accept this, no compromise can be found, and we must fight to the end.

Vladimir Putin: Yes, and we need to see the connection between the tragic events of the past years and today.

How many Jews were exterminated by the Nazis on the territory of Ukraine during the war?

Berl Lazar: I don't know the exact figures, unfortunately, but I do know that in many cities, unfortunately, when the Nazis came, there was already a place or city, as they call it, Judenfrei, already liberated from Jews, because collaborators and people themselves destroyed Jews, even before the arrival of the Nazis. Nazism, fascists.

Vladimir Putin: Exactly.

Alexander Yakovlevich, do you have such figures?

A. Shkolnik: Yes, we found figures: 12.7 million Soviet Union civilians [died], somewhere around that.

Vladimir Putin: Yes, 12,7. And how many Jews were exterminated in Ukraine by the Nazis and collaborators, which the chief rabbi of Russia just mentioned?

Alexander Shkolnik: I can't say for sure, Mr President.

Vladimir Putin: And I will tell you: this is one and a half million people. Women, old people, children. One and a half million people. If only six million people were exterminated by the Nazis during the Holocaust, then this is a quarter, 25 percent of the victims.

Alexander Yakovlevich, who did this in Ukraine?

A. Shkolnik: Actually, this was also done by the Ukrainians themselves, who joined the units.

Vladimir Putin: What are the Ukrainians like?

A. Shkolnik: What do you mean?

Vladimir Putin: Literally. There were Ukrainians who saved other people, and who destroyed them?

A. Shkolnik: It was the Nazis.

Vladimir Putin: Yes. They were not just Nazis, they were the same collaborators that the chief rabbi of Russia has just mentioned. It was Bandera members and their ilk who gave direct instructions. The Germans, even the Waffen-Ss, did not consider it possible to take part in these mass repressions. They practically handed it all over to local nationalists and anti-Semites.

This has a direct bearing on today. And everything we do should not have any speculative significance. These are all specific things that are related to today, so I ask you to pay attention to this too, and not only as a person who takes part in our event today, but also as the director of our leading institution – the Central Museum of the Great Patriotic War.

All these figures are known and understandable. The whole world knows that it was Banderovtsy and their ilk who were engaged in the implementation of this plan, the monstrous plan of the Nazis. But it is also necessary to show, and show convincingly and vividly, so that nothing like this will happen again in the future, to show who the current Ukrainian authorities have elevated to the podium and who they heroize. After all, we said that everything should be done to prevent the glorification of Nazism. And that's exactly what happens there. Who are these people who are now on the banner of the current Ukrainian authorities-we need to show it. Everything is clear there. [Except it isn’t clear; the “whole world” doesn’t know but must, and that’s another reason why getting this information correct and voiced is so important since the West/Nazis want to bury reality.]

Alexander Shkolnik: Mr President, on April 15 last year, at the Victory Museum, less than a month after the start of the special operation, we opened the exhibition "Ordinary Nazism", which tells about what you are talking about.

Vladimir Putin: Listen, Alexander Yakovlevich, the special operation has absolutely nothing to do with this. Everything that we are talking about now happened during the Great Patriotic War, when people were destroyed. When you look at real archival documents, the blood in your veins just freezes, it's impossible to look at it without tears, and you need to pull it out and show it. Who are the current authorities glorifying? Murderers of blood, that's who, inhumans put on a pedestal, with posters and with their portraits go through the center of cities.

I'm not sure that all people in Ukraine know what this is about. But at least let's show it from here, okay?

Thank you. Who else among the participants of our meeting today would like to take the floor and speak out? Ask you.

Yes, please, Vladimir Rostislavovich Medinsky.

Vladimir Medinsky : Mr President, good afternoon!

I would like to say that in the unified state history textbook that the Ministry of Education has now prepared for high school students, the figures you mention are given, including the minimum figure of thirteen and a half million civilians who were victims of the Nazi genocide during the war. And this figure is not final, as we understand. But this is no less than thirteen and a half million people, including the one and a half million Jews killed by Nazi henchmen in Ukraine. All these figures are given in the results of the war, and in comparison with the objective losses of our allies.

Thank you.

Vladimir Putin: Yes, and all this is in the archive documents: orders, reports on the execution of these orders, the names of those who did it, the names of the executioners. Everything is there, we just need to raise it and show it so that there is no misunderstanding about who we are fighting, so that it is clear and clear what goals we are pursuing and who is our opponent. Not the Ukrainian people, but these inhumans and their descendants. We need to show it, it's still there. Please pay attention to this.

Please, who else would like to say something? Ask you. All?

Then I want to thank everyone. The proposals that have been made and formulated today are being accepted. We will work on their implementation, and I ask you to reflect this in the relevant documents.

Thank you very much. All the best! [My Emphasis]

As I tried to make clear, Putin is very deeply involved in this history and its connection to today and the events that led to today. Too many push that important aspect aside with why being an important question to ask such people. Perhaps like the “Good Germans” they don’t want to know they allowed the rebirth or more specific how their nation allowed/enabled the continuance of Nazism. Many hard questions are begged by what we know: What did FDR know about what was being done in Occupied Italy in 1943 when the first indications of saving Nazis by the West appeared? And then what did FDR know of the clear plans to save many Nazis after the war, for what happened wasn’t happenstance—it was planned. What did Truman know about the several actions to save Nazis within Europe, mitigate their Nuremburg sentences that saved some from the hangman’s noose? Truman on all the Nazis sent to South America? Truman on the infiltration of Nazis into his administration? How much of McCarthy’s Anti-Communist Crusade was a shield to keep the Nazi influence hidden? How much influence did the USA’s past genocides prepare for the post-WW2 policies that led to further genocides in Latin America, Southeast Asia, Central Asia, West Asia, and Africa—again. In his latest sitrep, Simplicius says this about the ongoing events in Ukraine:

In short, it’s a slaughter. Just watch the BBC piece posted earlier—even the female morgue workers had to watch their own husbands stream back to the morgue from the frontline. This is mass genocide from the psychopathic Narco-fuhrer regime.

Many would rather remain ignorant than know the truth of our past. But that merely allows the crimes of the past to be committed anew. The fact that some people of importance are avowed Malthusians is very concerning along with the mounting evidence of bioengineered weapons—banned weapons that the USA used even though they were banned. Unfortunately, more could be added to this list. People must ask themselves: Do I want to be a “Good German” and feign unawareness or be as ignorant as possible to what my government’s doing with my monies? Of course, if the government didn’t collect your taxes, if it was determined to pursue the policies it has, it would’ve just printed the money it needed anyway just as it did during Covid.

So, we root for the Rs to impeach and remove Biden. And if they succeed, then what? Historical indicators point to the Ds as the point of Neocon origination, but rapidly they became a mainstay of the Rs as Eisenhower’s administration proves. (And how much did Ike know about the protection of Nazis and CIA alliance with OUN?) And again, the real question for American Citizens is: How much do you want to know?

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