The Picture Says It All
A synopsis of Medvedev’s talk is available here. One of the news items it generated is in English, “The expert called Dmitry Medvedev's Sochi speech a new proposal to the West,” and declares:
Russian publicists have already called the speech of the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council a new proposal to the West….
According to Russian journalist and public figure Alexei Zhivov, this statement by a Russian official is indeed similar to a new peace proposal, which has long been conveyed through informal diplomatic channels.
A few other publications echoed the above analysis, although there were several British rags publishing condescending tales in-line with their Russophobic policy. At some point I hope to get the full transcript as news reports provide snippets that aren’t included in the synopsis linked above.
IMO, the map’s the main story and is clearly a message.
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Some commentary from MoA:
Karlof1@103....interesting map, but it's still not far enough. The rump can always be used as an excuse to attack Russia. Obvious that any Ukraine outside Russia's complete control, even neutral will present ongoing problems.... unfortunately the Brits are involved and they specialize in the divide and conquer and as none of their physical assets are in any danger, they'll stick the dagger into Russia as long as they can get away with it. Russia, outside economic means is only capable of killing a few Brits here and there in 404, if they think that will deter them....
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 5 2024 17:33 utc | 113
Have been looking at Medvedev's map. Some very large cookies/carrots being offered up to Poland and Romania.
And Poland sure has not forgotten the massacre by the Galician nationalists/nazis. Those nazis will turn on Poland again and I suspect Poland will have no hesitation in exterminating them.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 5 2024 17:21 utc | 105
My replies:
sean the leprechaun | Mar 5 2024 17:33 utc | 113--
Agree that the Kiev area is too much. But as some have written, the map is a message that shows Russia's bargaining position. Of course, that bit of Ukraine would be DeNazified, Demilitarized and likely policed by SBU to ensure those two aspects remain; so, it wouldn't be fully sovereign. And the debts would be declared odious.
Peter AU1 | Mar 5 2024 17:21 utc | 105--
Yes, those territorial concessions are aimed at undermining NATO, IMO, as to get those lands Poland and Romania would need to rid themselves of their NATO bases and membership, while some security treaty with Russia would also be inked. IMO, many Ukrainians would accept such an outcome instead of continuing to lose the conflict and suffer more losses.
He is pulling our leg. I cannot imagine Russia conceding anything like that form of territorial arrangement. Que - there is no map key to comprehend what Medvedev intends. I cannot imagine they will tolerate Poland advancing through Lvov to the Ukraine centre, No one in their right mind would want the present Polish attitude withing gunshot let alone conceding the west of Ukraine to their administration. IMO this will be a struggle unto the return of 1990 NATO and the stricken division of the EU. I gather the yellow zone will be where all the USA bio labs will be relocated ;)