Comment on Karl Sanchez' "Zionists Cross Red Line at Al-Aqsa Mosque…"
A lot of people over at MoA are doing "rah-rah" for Hamas, talking about "defeating Israel" and "forcing Israelis to flee the country."
This is idiotic. Believing Hamas can defeat the IDF on their own is the same as believing Ukraine can defeat Russia, i.e., it's delusional thinking from people who have zero concept of the military balance.
I just looked up a report from 2009 on Hamas' military capability. Even assuming Hamas has gotten stronger and gotten newer weapons over the last twelve years, which they certainly have, according to that report Hamas had about 15,000 total potential combatants, with only 2,000 real soldiers. More recent estimates from the last few years suggest as many as 20-40,000 potential combatants, but I can't find a decent estimate of actual soldiers. Let's assume Hamas can put 20,000 people directly engaged in combat with the rest as logistical tail.
Israel has 173,000 active personnel, and 465,000 reserves.plus 8,000 paramilitary. Israel has 1,760 ready tanks and 520 ready self-propelled artillery and 240 ready towed artillery. It has 193 ready fighter jets and 38 ready attack helicopters.
While Hamas has more modern missiles and antitank weapons than in the past, it is not possible for Hamas to defeat Israel on their own. The question is: Will they get help from Hezbollah? Syria won't help directly, Assad has too much to lose. Iran can supply weapons via Hezbollah but that's about it. The rest of the Arab nations won't do anything, as usual. Without direct help from Hezbollah, Hamas can not achieve much.
It may be possible for Hamas' large organization inside Lebanon to help somewhat, but that raises the question of whether Hezbollah will approve and support them given the risk to Hezbollah and Lebanon itself, which still currently does not have a functioning government. Should Hezbollah directly support the Lebanese Hamas organization in a direct attack into northern Israel, this would significantly change the military situation. OTOH, should that change produce a real threat to Israel, Israel would immediately call on the US to help - and I have zero doubt that the US would help.
The report I mentioned earlier suggested that Hamas back in 2009 operated on several assumptions:
1. Israel will not go to war now
2. Israel will conduct air strikes only
3. Any operation will be short
4. The Israeli population will pressure the government to end the conflict
5. Israel will not receive international support and will be largely isolated diplomatically
6. Israel will face multiple fronts - it expected West Bank Palestinians to riot and Hezbollah attacks.
Some of these assumptions proved erroneous then and may prove erroneous now, especially if this Israeli operation is part of a coordinated plan either by Israel or Israel and the US neocons.
As I've written today, Occupied Palestine has deep political problems detailed by Crooke's excellent reporting. 2023 Hamas isn't 2009, nor 2018 when the Zionists say the current "war" began. The serious commentators at MoA are watching just as I am. with most of the gibberish being Hasbara crap and its pushback. My several comments are the only ones providing any background for this event, and most of the current 457 comments are a waste of bandwidth. The ongoing news roll at al-Mayadeen details this isn't just a short reaction by Al-Qassam Brigades. At 3am local time, fighting continues. The Zionists can bomb Gaza, but since the wall was breeched, the ability to contain is lost, and that presents a huge problem.
Let me summarize my position thus: Email me when Hamas reaches Tel Aviv. Or Hezbollah starts bombing Tel Aviv. We're a half day into this. Let's see where things stand in a week.
It's good to see that you've highlighted the earlier Zionist provocations that preceded this reaction. Most news agencies have described this as unprovoked.
Response to Karl Sanchez's "Zionists Cross Red Line at Al-Aqsa Mosque Palestinians Retaliate":
Thanks for this update. I haven't been following the Palestinian situation at all since the Ukraine war started, other than to note Israel's continued attacks inside Syria.
Russia may be compromised, but that's because they are aware that there is little they can do without involving the US directly - and this is the US intention in supporting Netanyahu's aggression. The US wants to distract Russia from Ukraine, a case of "lateral escalation".
The real question is Hezbollah. Hezbollah has the military capability to make life miserable for the Israeli population and cause the Israeli economy to evaporate. The problem for Nasrallah is that this will result in Lebanese casualties and in the end that is what matters to Nasrallah. Also, this could be seen as a means to restart the Israeli-Hezbollah war of 2006, but this time with the US directly lending a hand. This could also imperil Russia's position in Syria.
So everyone is having to weigh the cost-benefit equation of direct conflict. Which means, as usual, the Palestinians are left on their own.
I've long advocated the assassination of major Israeli Zionist leaders. If someone - Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria, or Iran - had taken out Netanyahu and the other radical right in Israel, things might have been kept under control for longer and the Palestinians might have been able to negotiate with more centrist Israeli governments (if that's even possible.) Now it could blow up into a major regional conflict including war between the US/Israel and Iran.
Like the US and EU neocons, the Israeli Zionists got's to go. The problem is how.
As with all other readers, I highly advise consulting Crooke's writings on the situation over the past two years to understand there're no "centrists" within the Zionist government, although they do exist within Palestine. The Red Line was crossed. Crooke has also reported on the little leverage Team Biden has with Netanyahu and the radical Zionists. The next 48 hours will be vital.
Yes, I know there are few "centrists". There is still an advantage to taking out the most radical Zionists.
As for Biden having "leverage", to do what? Biden is run by neocons. Neocons want all this. Biden has already stated the standard canard that "Israel has the right to defend itself." The real question is what happens if this escalates and Hezbollah gets involved. Then Israel has a direct reason to ask for US help. Do you think Biden will refuse? With an upcoming election year? See my other comments. I believe this is a coordinated move by the US and Israel.
I don't see any coordination in the authorship of the proposed provocation as was reported by Crooke back in June if I recall. Team Biden was reportedly hopeful of Palestine staying quiet until the election as Biden already has too many negatives.
Possibly. But remember "Team Biden" is mostly Biden and Jake Sullivan. Everyone else is a direct neocon intent on supporting Israel and creating havoc everywhere. Like I say, let's wait and see what develops before we proclaim this some sort of Hamas strategy that has a realistic chance of any sort of "success."
Historically the best Hamas has done is keep Israel out of Gaza at the cost of thousands of civilian casualties and more infrastructure damage. Long-term that only works for Israel. Hamas needs to change that dynamic and in my view they can't do it without Hezbollah help.
As in any war logistics is key. Hamas has no easy resupply trail, the Zionists do unfortunately. Unless Hizbollah, Iran and Syria jump in then Hamas will wither on the vine.
Part of me wants to believe that Hamas didn't attack now without having concrete assurances from allies that they won't be alone. This operation has been long planned, so why attempt it without having backup?
The US supporting Israel in ethnically cleansing Palestine to create a religious-supremacist Jewish lebensraum will be an absolute gift to Russia, China and Iran in showing the rest of the world the utter poison that the US and the West is. Yet another idiotic decision by the US elites that will help speed their global decline. Sadly the price will 100,000s of dead, together with allying the Muslim world against Israel once more. Saudi Arabia cannot now risk making friends with Israel. And even then the Zionists will not win, they will just make their utter destruction more inevitable.
When you give a people no hope and then work destroy one of their greatest religious buildings what would you expect? The Israelis obviously intentionally triggered this.
At the same time is seems that all the arms shipments are being redirected to Israel , not good news for Ukraine.
The US mistake was made in 1948 by Truman and made worse ever since. As for support, the same problem exists for the Zionists as it does for the Ukies--Congressional gridlock. Plus, there were no special proposed aid packages for the Zionists because the provocation just happened this past Friday, although long planned. Will this become a full-on Intifada? Only time will tell.
It's always frustrated me that the Palestinian Resistance hasn't placed more importance on targetted assassinations. The Fake Jews do it and so should the Palestinians.
It seems as though via a 'Red Line', Israel has painted itself into a corner. Assuming the Nabka takes place, where do all the Palestinians end up and does this create a larger concern down the road?
I suggest reading more of Crooke's reports beyond the few I cited to learn of the centrifugal forces being generated within the Zionist world itself and how this provocation at Al-Aqsa was meant to trigger something entirely different from what's occurred. The Zionist "Samson Option" was meant to target invading Arab states, not Palestine itself; so, what do the Zionists have to defend themselves from the rath of the natives who aim to drive the invaders out? From what I've seen, Gaza Hamas and its allies have blitzed the IDF and settler enclaves, capturing numerous tanks and other vital weapons that will enable further offensive operations. At his Telegram, Escobar features this map, https://t.me/TheMediterraneanMan/1195 and its caption, "An underequipped, Isolated, Non-State army functions better and captures more land than the NATO-trained Ukrainian Army."
This is the first 24 hours. As you'll discover by reading more Crooke, the IDF wasn't on good terms with the Netanyahu government, so there's no telling how well the mobilization call will be answered. What Gaza lacked are manpads; but with the capture of IDF equipment, Palestinians might have some now and with them the ability to strike back at the IAF. How many thousands of Zionists will flee today? Depends on how many empty seats were on scheduled flights out.
I wouldn't over-estimate Hamas' capability. They may be able to put up a good fight inside their own territory in urban guerrilla warfare, but as you note, Israel can just bomb the crap out of that territory without Hamas being able to prevent that. This scenario has been played out over and over for decades and Hamas has never won. A handful of captured weapons isn't going to change that.
The best Hamas can hope for is to inflict enough casualties on the Israelis to cause a public outcry against Netanyahu and force him to worry about his political future - although given the dysfunction of Israeli politics, it seems nothing can get rid of him. So at best the situation will go back to the status quo. But that assumes the US and Netanyahu are willing to back down under the present geopolitical circumstances. If Crooke is right, that may not be the case. The US and Netanyahu may be willing to go for broke, just as the US did in Ukraine.
As Martyanov says, "I am on record for years" that the only way Israel can deal with both the Palestinians and Iran is to deal first with Hezbollah (and by extension, Syria). And I've pointed out that the only way Israel can do that is with direct US help. And now the US has a reason to help - lateral escalation against Russia in Syria, and then against Iran.
Only Hezbollah has the capability to bring Israel to its knees with long-range missiles and enough of them to put every Israeli citizen in bomb shelters 24x7 for months at a time.
This could be the opening move of a neocon attempt to finally take out the Palestinians, Hezbollah, Syria and Iran. I wouldn't ignore that possibility.
This would have some effect usually but if this was a planned provocation and escalation by Netanyahu, which it probably was, then it probably won't. Also it could work the other way and motivate the right-wing Israelis to push for more aggression against the Palestinians. The 2006 war started over Hezbollah kidnapping a couple of soldiers who were suspiciously left away from their command post. That only ended when the Israeli casualties became "excessive" in the minds of the Israeli public. That took 6 weeks IIRC.
What a bunch of crap!!! Those being occupied against their will and in this case being subjected to slow motion genocide have every right in the world to fight for their freedom; so, by definition, this can't be a 911. Plus as most know, this isn't a flase flag like 911. I see zero difference between OUN and Zionists; they are kin as far as I'm concerned.
Of course it's fucking ridiculous, but we live in a world filled with ridiculous people absorbing ridiculous things. The narrative will appeal to religious nuts in the USA, and those that believe Ukraine is about defending democracy...and the general public who don't read our comments :)
Yes, Netanyahu knows how to push the US Zionist supporters buttons. From what I can tell from just scanning the title of Youtube videos (I can't bother to watch them), most of the US media is high-lighting the phrase "Israel attacked!" or "Hamas Attacks Israel" without once mentioning the Al-Agsa Mosque incursion. The US media will take their cue from Netanyahu and Biden just as they did with Biden and Zelensky on Ukraine.
The captured war materiel may well be augmented by some newly-acquired bits "exported" from UA in the past year and a half. Additionally, DJI--PRC's largest drone producer--should enjoy brisk sales. To both sides.
By the way, does anyone know if these "5,000 rockets" Hamas allegedly fired are "real" rockets such as might be supplied by Hezbollah, or if they're the same-old, same-old ineffective crap rockets they've been using for years?
Update: From MoA, comments suggest Hamas is using black market Ukraine antitank weapons against the IDF tanks. Nice blowback from Ukraine. Here's hoping they got some decent manpads as well for use against IDF jets.
I did see some articles reporting that Hamas has received a lot of new stuff. But a field full of MLRS is an easy target for Israeli jets and drones, so unless they're moved under cover they won't last long. And Israel has 1,700 tanks and over 700 longer range artillery.
These MLRS are compact, easily carried by two people. Emerge from tunnels, shoot and scoot. Have just seen the same tactic on tg with a dozen drones, quick set up, launch and retreat.
Comment on Karl Sanchez' "Zionists Cross Red Line at Al-Aqsa Mosque…"
A lot of people over at MoA are doing "rah-rah" for Hamas, talking about "defeating Israel" and "forcing Israelis to flee the country."
This is idiotic. Believing Hamas can defeat the IDF on their own is the same as believing Ukraine can defeat Russia, i.e., it's delusional thinking from people who have zero concept of the military balance.
I just looked up a report from 2009 on Hamas' military capability. Even assuming Hamas has gotten stronger and gotten newer weapons over the last twelve years, which they certainly have, according to that report Hamas had about 15,000 total potential combatants, with only 2,000 real soldiers. More recent estimates from the last few years suggest as many as 20-40,000 potential combatants, but I can't find a decent estimate of actual soldiers. Let's assume Hamas can put 20,000 people directly engaged in combat with the rest as logistical tail.
Compare that to Israel which is described here:
https://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.php?country_id=israel
Israel has 173,000 active personnel, and 465,000 reserves.plus 8,000 paramilitary. Israel has 1,760 ready tanks and 520 ready self-propelled artillery and 240 ready towed artillery. It has 193 ready fighter jets and 38 ready attack helicopters.
While Hamas has more modern missiles and antitank weapons than in the past, it is not possible for Hamas to defeat Israel on their own. The question is: Will they get help from Hezbollah? Syria won't help directly, Assad has too much to lose. Iran can supply weapons via Hezbollah but that's about it. The rest of the Arab nations won't do anything, as usual. Without direct help from Hezbollah, Hamas can not achieve much.
It may be possible for Hamas' large organization inside Lebanon to help somewhat, but that raises the question of whether Hezbollah will approve and support them given the risk to Hezbollah and Lebanon itself, which still currently does not have a functioning government. Should Hezbollah directly support the Lebanese Hamas organization in a direct attack into northern Israel, this would significantly change the military situation. OTOH, should that change produce a real threat to Israel, Israel would immediately call on the US to help - and I have zero doubt that the US would help.
The report I mentioned earlier suggested that Hamas back in 2009 operated on several assumptions:
1. Israel will not go to war now
2. Israel will conduct air strikes only
3. Any operation will be short
4. The Israeli population will pressure the government to end the conflict
5. Israel will not receive international support and will be largely isolated diplomatically
6. Israel will face multiple fronts - it expected West Bank Palestinians to riot and Hezbollah attacks.
Some of these assumptions proved erroneous then and may prove erroneous now, especially if this Israeli operation is part of a coordinated plan either by Israel or Israel and the US neocons.
As I've written today, Occupied Palestine has deep political problems detailed by Crooke's excellent reporting. 2023 Hamas isn't 2009, nor 2018 when the Zionists say the current "war" began. The serious commentators at MoA are watching just as I am. with most of the gibberish being Hasbara crap and its pushback. My several comments are the only ones providing any background for this event, and most of the current 457 comments are a waste of bandwidth. The ongoing news roll at al-Mayadeen details this isn't just a short reaction by Al-Qassam Brigades. At 3am local time, fighting continues. The Zionists can bomb Gaza, but since the wall was breeched, the ability to contain is lost, and that presents a huge problem.
Let me summarize my position thus: Email me when Hamas reaches Tel Aviv. Or Hezbollah starts bombing Tel Aviv. We're a half day into this. Let's see where things stand in a week.
It's good to see that you've highlighted the earlier Zionist provocations that preceded this reaction. Most news agencies have described this as unprovoked.
There's lots of background context available, and of course I've been paying attention.
BBC did it again this morning.
Response to Karl Sanchez's "Zionists Cross Red Line at Al-Aqsa Mosque Palestinians Retaliate":
Thanks for this update. I haven't been following the Palestinian situation at all since the Ukraine war started, other than to note Israel's continued attacks inside Syria.
Russia may be compromised, but that's because they are aware that there is little they can do without involving the US directly - and this is the US intention in supporting Netanyahu's aggression. The US wants to distract Russia from Ukraine, a case of "lateral escalation".
The real question is Hezbollah. Hezbollah has the military capability to make life miserable for the Israeli population and cause the Israeli economy to evaporate. The problem for Nasrallah is that this will result in Lebanese casualties and in the end that is what matters to Nasrallah. Also, this could be seen as a means to restart the Israeli-Hezbollah war of 2006, but this time with the US directly lending a hand. This could also imperil Russia's position in Syria.
So everyone is having to weigh the cost-benefit equation of direct conflict. Which means, as usual, the Palestinians are left on their own.
I've long advocated the assassination of major Israeli Zionist leaders. If someone - Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria, or Iran - had taken out Netanyahu and the other radical right in Israel, things might have been kept under control for longer and the Palestinians might have been able to negotiate with more centrist Israeli governments (if that's even possible.) Now it could blow up into a major regional conflict including war between the US/Israel and Iran.
Like the US and EU neocons, the Israeli Zionists got's to go. The problem is how.
As with all other readers, I highly advise consulting Crooke's writings on the situation over the past two years to understand there're no "centrists" within the Zionist government, although they do exist within Palestine. The Red Line was crossed. Crooke has also reported on the little leverage Team Biden has with Netanyahu and the radical Zionists. The next 48 hours will be vital.
Yes, I know there are few "centrists". There is still an advantage to taking out the most radical Zionists.
As for Biden having "leverage", to do what? Biden is run by neocons. Neocons want all this. Biden has already stated the standard canard that "Israel has the right to defend itself." The real question is what happens if this escalates and Hezbollah gets involved. Then Israel has a direct reason to ask for US help. Do you think Biden will refuse? With an upcoming election year? See my other comments. I believe this is a coordinated move by the US and Israel.
I don't see any coordination in the authorship of the proposed provocation as was reported by Crooke back in June if I recall. Team Biden was reportedly hopeful of Palestine staying quiet until the election as Biden already has too many negatives.
Possibly. But remember "Team Biden" is mostly Biden and Jake Sullivan. Everyone else is a direct neocon intent on supporting Israel and creating havoc everywhere. Like I say, let's wait and see what develops before we proclaim this some sort of Hamas strategy that has a realistic chance of any sort of "success."
Historically the best Hamas has done is keep Israel out of Gaza at the cost of thousands of civilian casualties and more infrastructure damage. Long-term that only works for Israel. Hamas needs to change that dynamic and in my view they can't do it without Hezbollah help.
As in any war logistics is key. Hamas has no easy resupply trail, the Zionists do unfortunately. Unless Hizbollah, Iran and Syria jump in then Hamas will wither on the vine.
Part of me wants to believe that Hamas didn't attack now without having concrete assurances from allies that they won't be alone. This operation has been long planned, so why attempt it without having backup?
Or is it a suicide mission?
It doesn't look like a suicide mission to me. As I suggested, read Crooke's articles since last June and you'll have a much better picture.
The US supporting Israel in ethnically cleansing Palestine to create a religious-supremacist Jewish lebensraum will be an absolute gift to Russia, China and Iran in showing the rest of the world the utter poison that the US and the West is. Yet another idiotic decision by the US elites that will help speed their global decline. Sadly the price will 100,000s of dead, together with allying the Muslim world against Israel once more. Saudi Arabia cannot now risk making friends with Israel. And even then the Zionists will not win, they will just make their utter destruction more inevitable.
When you give a people no hope and then work destroy one of their greatest religious buildings what would you expect? The Israelis obviously intentionally triggered this.
At the same time is seems that all the arms shipments are being redirected to Israel , not good news for Ukraine.
The US mistake was made in 1948 by Truman and made worse ever since. As for support, the same problem exists for the Zionists as it does for the Ukies--Congressional gridlock. Plus, there were no special proposed aid packages for the Zionists because the provocation just happened this past Friday, although long planned. Will this become a full-on Intifada? Only time will tell.
It's always frustrated me that the Palestinian Resistance hasn't placed more importance on targetted assassinations. The Fake Jews do it and so should the Palestinians.
It seems as though via a 'Red Line', Israel has painted itself into a corner. Assuming the Nabka takes place, where do all the Palestinians end up and does this create a larger concern down the road?
I suggest reading more of Crooke's reports beyond the few I cited to learn of the centrifugal forces being generated within the Zionist world itself and how this provocation at Al-Aqsa was meant to trigger something entirely different from what's occurred. The Zionist "Samson Option" was meant to target invading Arab states, not Palestine itself; so, what do the Zionists have to defend themselves from the rath of the natives who aim to drive the invaders out? From what I've seen, Gaza Hamas and its allies have blitzed the IDF and settler enclaves, capturing numerous tanks and other vital weapons that will enable further offensive operations. At his Telegram, Escobar features this map, https://t.me/TheMediterraneanMan/1195 and its caption, "An underequipped, Isolated, Non-State army functions better and captures more land than the NATO-trained Ukrainian Army."
This is the first 24 hours. As you'll discover by reading more Crooke, the IDF wasn't on good terms with the Netanyahu government, so there's no telling how well the mobilization call will be answered. What Gaza lacked are manpads; but with the capture of IDF equipment, Palestinians might have some now and with them the ability to strike back at the IAF. How many thousands of Zionists will flee today? Depends on how many empty seats were on scheduled flights out.
Don't get me wrong, I'm rooting for the Palestinians, however I won't throw realism out of the window.
It's one thing to capture tanks, IFVs' etc but is another to know how to use them effectively. And then they deplete the ammunition, then what?
I wouldn't over-estimate Hamas' capability. They may be able to put up a good fight inside their own territory in urban guerrilla warfare, but as you note, Israel can just bomb the crap out of that territory without Hamas being able to prevent that. This scenario has been played out over and over for decades and Hamas has never won. A handful of captured weapons isn't going to change that.
The best Hamas can hope for is to inflict enough casualties on the Israelis to cause a public outcry against Netanyahu and force him to worry about his political future - although given the dysfunction of Israeli politics, it seems nothing can get rid of him. So at best the situation will go back to the status quo. But that assumes the US and Netanyahu are willing to back down under the present geopolitical circumstances. If Crooke is right, that may not be the case. The US and Netanyahu may be willing to go for broke, just as the US did in Ukraine.
As Martyanov says, "I am on record for years" that the only way Israel can deal with both the Palestinians and Iran is to deal first with Hezbollah (and by extension, Syria). And I've pointed out that the only way Israel can do that is with direct US help. And now the US has a reason to help - lateral escalation against Russia in Syria, and then against Iran.
Only Hezbollah has the capability to bring Israel to its knees with long-range missiles and enough of them to put every Israeli citizen in bomb shelters 24x7 for months at a time.
This could be the opening move of a neocon attempt to finally take out the Palestinians, Hezbollah, Syria and Iran. I wouldn't ignore that possibility.
Re bombing Gaza, Hamas has something they haven't had before and that is hostages, hundreds of them by some accounts.
That will be bad press for Nuttyyahoo if his genocidal maniacs cause their deaths.
And by many reports, that's already happened. As with OUN, the Zionists don't care who they kill to attain their goals.
This would have some effect usually but if this was a planned provocation and escalation by Netanyahu, which it probably was, then it probably won't. Also it could work the other way and motivate the right-wing Israelis to push for more aggression against the Palestinians. The 2006 war started over Hezbollah kidnapping a couple of soldiers who were suspiciously left away from their command post. That only ended when the Israeli casualties became "excessive" in the minds of the Israeli public. That took 6 weeks IIRC.
Israel has stated this is their "9/11" and will "ensure that the world never forgets".
What a bunch of crap!!! Those being occupied against their will and in this case being subjected to slow motion genocide have every right in the world to fight for their freedom; so, by definition, this can't be a 911. Plus as most know, this isn't a flase flag like 911. I see zero difference between OUN and Zionists; they are kin as far as I'm concerned.
Of course it's fucking ridiculous, but we live in a world filled with ridiculous people absorbing ridiculous things. The narrative will appeal to religious nuts in the USA, and those that believe Ukraine is about defending democracy...and the general public who don't read our comments :)
https://youtu.be/usYVJG4pngQ
Yes, Netanyahu knows how to push the US Zionist supporters buttons. From what I can tell from just scanning the title of Youtube videos (I can't bother to watch them), most of the US media is high-lighting the phrase "Israel attacked!" or "Hamas Attacks Israel" without once mentioning the Al-Agsa Mosque incursion. The US media will take their cue from Netanyahu and Biden just as they did with Biden and Zelensky on Ukraine.
The only benefit is that it was bad timing for Ukraine's false flag attention seeking - https://strategic-culture.su/news/2023/10/08/heinous-choreography-of-village-massacre-as-zelensky-begs-for-more-weapons-at-eu-summit/
The captured war materiel may well be augmented by some newly-acquired bits "exported" from UA in the past year and a half. Additionally, DJI--PRC's largest drone producer--should enjoy brisk sales. To both sides.
By the way, does anyone know if these "5,000 rockets" Hamas allegedly fired are "real" rockets such as might be supplied by Hezbollah, or if they're the same-old, same-old ineffective crap rockets they've been using for years?
Update: From MoA, comments suggest Hamas is using black market Ukraine antitank weapons against the IDF tanks. Nice blowback from Ukraine. Here's hoping they got some decent manpads as well for use against IDF jets.
I don't know how to embed pics. I have one from tg showing a Palestinian field full of compact MLRS, at least two dozen. Each has 15 tubes.
I did see some articles reporting that Hamas has received a lot of new stuff. But a field full of MLRS is an easy target for Israeli jets and drones, so unless they're moved under cover they won't last long. And Israel has 1,700 tanks and over 700 longer range artillery.
These MLRS are compact, easily carried by two people. Emerge from tunnels, shoot and scoot. Have just seen the same tactic on tg with a dozen drones, quick set up, launch and retreat.