Could I add for those not over familiar with this part of the world that Chossudovsky’s ‘The Globalization of Poverty’ is a thorough account of the economic dismantling of Yugoslavia by the IMF, World Bank, and occupation of Kosovo by the US military. As is F William Engdahl’s ‘Manifest Destiny’.
Both authors prepare the reader for a geopolitical journey from which there is no going back. A warning: the anger, disgust and horror at what the West does is difficult to stomach.
Just as VVP could be considered the most capable Head of State on the planet (he has my vote), this interview clearly shows Mr. Lavrov to be one of the world’s most pre-eminent diplomats and geopolitical experts. Always plain speaking and informative, and NEVER condescending.
Nice contribution, Karl. Lavrov is always brilliant. It's a joy to hear someone taking recent history seriously.
However, this bit also interested me;
"I wonder what Lavrov really thinks about 11 September 2001 now that 20+ years have passes and what it enabled is quite clear. Building 7 stood in testimony that the narrative provided was and remains bullshit."
I think you should revisit this topic. It sounds like you've studied it and, in light of the developments of the last 4 years or so, I've been rethinking my view on that experience. I imagine a lot of people have.
At the time, I was right in there with a host of internet investigators. All my 911 stuff is on an old desktop that sits gathering dust. The main point for me is all its prep happened during Clinton/Gore and thus begs the question: Would there have been any difference with Gore becoming POTUS? IMO, given what we know about the genuine motive--to destroy evidence of massive corruption by the Parasites while providing the excuse to give the Taliban their bombs instead of gold, and get the Clean Break started. Mike Ruppert's the one who revealed the most. He's the only cop I ever liked.
Generally agree. No no flight zone despite warnings, terrorist watch list folks just freely wandering between western countries, a cover up investigation and not a single person held accountable. Then there's the way twin towers fell, etc. The Saudis must know something and perhaps that could come to light with a further deterioration of their relationship with imperialism.
Maybe time to dust off that old material and take a look from the 2024 perspective...
Save it and read. 911's a far bigger story than just what happened that day. What Mike wrote, I can't duplicate. Gary Webb's book "Dark Alliance" is also required reading. It can be freely downloaded here. https://archive.org/details/dark-alliance-gary-webb
Poor Gary. Allegedly committed suicide (two gunshots). I read his book while Lewinsky's cum stained dress was dominating the headlines. Probably the first real American journalist I encountered in my life to that point.
He wrote for the San Jose Mercury News while I lived there, so I read his newspaper series prior to his book. Truth tellers aren't tolerated within the Outlaw US Empire while Big Liars are rewarded handsomely.
They do get those first names wrong too often, and I missed that one. In my library, I have a first-person account of WW2 within the Balkans by an anti-Nazi Croat I picked up for a nickel at a library sale after the first round in 1992. It helped me understand the four different sides that made Yugoslavia's demise rather easy to accomplish after Tito's demise. When I did my study on the Caucasus, its similarity to the Balkans was very clear--a fact noted by those running the Anti-Communist Crusade.
I'll dig up that book for you later today. Bruce Cummings wrote the intro, and its his books on the topic I have. I see the Stone book is in public domain and freely downloadable, which I just did--Thanks!
"it turned out that all the promises, which were also recorded 'on paper' and in UN Security Council resolutions, were hypocrisy, or even outright lies."
"It is often said in Belgrade that the war that is currently going on in Ukraine did not begin in 2014, not after the coup. It began in 1999, when the West stopped hiding all its aspirations for aggression."
where it is stated the war in Ukraine can be traced back even to 1991 (as you wrote at the end of your article), i.e. immediately after Ukraine's independence, when draft-age people were called to the Ukrainian commissariats and obliged to sign a document saying that, in case of a military aggression by Russia, they pledged to fight against it!
I strongly recommend watching this video. The part I am referring to starts at 6:03.
Could I add for those not over familiar with this part of the world that Chossudovsky’s ‘The Globalization of Poverty’ is a thorough account of the economic dismantling of Yugoslavia by the IMF, World Bank, and occupation of Kosovo by the US military. As is F William Engdahl’s ‘Manifest Destiny’.
Both authors prepare the reader for a geopolitical journey from which there is no going back. A warning: the anger, disgust and horror at what the West does is difficult to stomach.
That comment would fit right in with today's MoA topic, "Deterrence By Savagery?" and the plunder related to it all.
Just as VVP could be considered the most capable Head of State on the planet (he has my vote), this interview clearly shows Mr. Lavrov to be one of the world’s most pre-eminent diplomats and geopolitical experts. Always plain speaking and informative, and NEVER condescending.
The man has no ambition to write his memoirs!!
Nice contribution, Karl. Lavrov is always brilliant. It's a joy to hear someone taking recent history seriously.
However, this bit also interested me;
"I wonder what Lavrov really thinks about 11 September 2001 now that 20+ years have passes and what it enabled is quite clear. Building 7 stood in testimony that the narrative provided was and remains bullshit."
I think you should revisit this topic. It sounds like you've studied it and, in light of the developments of the last 4 years or so, I've been rethinking my view on that experience. I imagine a lot of people have.
At the time, I was right in there with a host of internet investigators. All my 911 stuff is on an old desktop that sits gathering dust. The main point for me is all its prep happened during Clinton/Gore and thus begs the question: Would there have been any difference with Gore becoming POTUS? IMO, given what we know about the genuine motive--to destroy evidence of massive corruption by the Parasites while providing the excuse to give the Taliban their bombs instead of gold, and get the Clean Break started. Mike Ruppert's the one who revealed the most. He's the only cop I ever liked.
Generally agree. No no flight zone despite warnings, terrorist watch list folks just freely wandering between western countries, a cover up investigation and not a single person held accountable. Then there's the way twin towers fell, etc. The Saudis must know something and perhaps that could come to light with a further deterioration of their relationship with imperialism.
Maybe time to dust off that old material and take a look from the 2024 perspective...
We compiled a rather large list pointing to a vast false flag. Here's the link to Ruppert's work he was killed for writing, https://economiafinanzafisco.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/michael-c.-ruppert-crossing-the-rubicon-2004-copy.pdf
Save it and read. 911's a far bigger story than just what happened that day. What Mike wrote, I can't duplicate. Gary Webb's book "Dark Alliance" is also required reading. It can be freely downloaded here. https://archive.org/details/dark-alliance-gary-webb
Poor Gary. Allegedly committed suicide (two gunshots). I read his book while Lewinsky's cum stained dress was dominating the headlines. Probably the first real American journalist I encountered in my life to that point.
He wrote for the San Jose Mercury News while I lived there, so I read his newspaper series prior to his book. Truth tellers aren't tolerated within the Outlaw US Empire while Big Liars are rewarded handsomely.
A story worth saving for my reference. I skipped all of this when it happened.
My first visit to Yugoslavia was in 1964. I remember it well. Thank you, Karl.
BTW, a nit, the name is Richard, not Robert Holbrooke.
They do get those first names wrong too often, and I missed that one. In my library, I have a first-person account of WW2 within the Balkans by an anti-Nazi Croat I picked up for a nickel at a library sale after the first round in 1992. It helped me understand the four different sides that made Yugoslavia's demise rather easy to accomplish after Tito's demise. When I did my study on the Caucasus, its similarity to the Balkans was very clear--a fact noted by those running the Anti-Communist Crusade.
I'd like that reference and see if I can get it, Karl.
BTW, I loaned my copy of IF Stone's 'The Hidden History of the Korean War' to a student in the early seventies. Worthy of a read if you can get it.
I'll dig up that book for you later today. Bruce Cummings wrote the intro, and its his books on the topic I have. I see the Stone book is in public domain and freely downloadable, which I just did--Thanks!
"it turned out that all the promises, which were also recorded 'on paper' and in UN Security Council resolutions, were hypocrisy, or even outright lies."
This sounds like a bad omen for the UNSC resolution today, which I have dealt with in my latest article, by the way: https://geopolitiq.substack.com/p/unsc-passes-resolution-calling-for
"It is often said in Belgrade that the war that is currently going on in Ukraine did not begin in 2014, not after the coup. It began in 1999, when the West stopped hiding all its aspirations for aggression."
Well... actually, just today I have watched this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tUEA4naSFw
where it is stated the war in Ukraine can be traced back even to 1991 (as you wrote at the end of your article), i.e. immediately after Ukraine's independence, when draft-age people were called to the Ukrainian commissariats and obliged to sign a document saying that, in case of a military aggression by Russia, they pledged to fight against it!
I strongly recommend watching this video. The part I am referring to starts at 6:03.
Thanks for your contribution!!