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uncle tungsten's avatar

Thank you Karl - an excellent report. The primary ideology of the West is - steal other people's stuff and smash them if they resist. Its not too complex.

Meanwhile as the Westie numbskull-in-chief is busy dodging allegations of crimes against adolescent girls, the FUK are busy nuking up. see: https://t.me/milinfolive/152862

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The UK and France have agreed to coordinate their nuclear forces. And on July 10, the signing of the corresponding document, the Northwood Declaration, was officially announced.

New Franco-British initiatives in the military sphere continue the already established trends, both in terms of conventional and nuclear weapons. The countries have been cooperating for quite a long time: for example, the SCALP/Storm Shadow cruise missiles are well-known, and infrastructure is jointly used to maintain the operability of nuclear warheads within the framework of the TEUTATES project.

However, until recently, independence was emphasized in the nuclear sphere, especially on the French side - in particular, despite being a member of NATO and participating in military cooperation, Paris was not a member of the Nuclear Planning Group, their aviation component of the nuclear triad was on its own. The British, in turn, were limited to submarines with ballistic missiles as the sole instrument of their nuclear deterrence.

Recently, certain changes have begun in connection with discussions about the need to strengthen European nuclear deterrence in the face of the "Russian threat" and doubts about the American nuclear umbrella.

There is even discussion of the possible deployment of French "Rafales" from "nuclear" squadrons in the countries of the "Eastern Flank" of NATO, while the British decided to purchase American F-35A for full participation in joint NATO nuclear missions.

In this environment, the Northwood Declaration is aimed at further deepening the interaction between Paris and London. A kind of Steering Group on Nuclear Issues is being created, plans have been announced to coordinate activities in the field of nuclear deterrence, and work continues on creating a new generation of cruise missiles for various purposes.

Let us assume that in the future we may see more active involvement of surface and underwater ships of the two countries' navies in ensuring the combat patrol of their SSBNs. Joint development of actions by the aviation component of nuclear forces is also possible, and one can expect the participation of British aviation, including tankers, in the traditional French Poker exercises.

It is possible that the Entente will also think about jointly developing air-launched cruise missiles in nuclear equipment, and slightly simpler and more accessible for more massive deployment than the current French supersonic ASMP-A and promising hypersonic ASN4G.

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WTFUD's avatar

The Internal-War that Putin fought in order to wrestle power from the Oligarchs was an Ideological War.

Had he not secured loyalty within the Security Apparatus Russia would have fallen prey to the same vultures who stole American Independence.

Being a lawyer within the FSB was most fortuitous - Robin Hood and his Merry Men.

Being able to deal with the biggest pro-western oligarch Khodorkovsky who by 2005/6 had bought and paid for half the Duma, fully expecting to rule Russia and release upon its gentle folk the Western Banking Cartels.

Hell, sends a shiver down my spine as I write!

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Loam's avatar

Keeping the world's largest country united, subduing the internal enemy, and successfully combating the external enemy is a task certainly worthy of respect and admiration.

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Sony Terra's avatar

The above photo imo. Good intro question!💯

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james's avatar

yes, all those issues you draw attention to at the end are indeed ideological... it is hard to know why putin avoids articulating exactly what the difference is between the wests agenda and russia's agenda here, as it is fairly plain to see... both ideologies would like to continue in the same vein and in opposite directions, but the ideologies are not being articulated clearly for everyone to acknowledge...

however in a round about way putin and lavrov do express their ideology via their actions, as does the west... as many have acknowledged 'actions speak louder then words' and that bears repeating and acknowledging at the onset of any of this philosophical discussion covered, or not however by the media both msm and alternative..

thanks for sharing your ruminations here karl! james

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Dave's Channel's avatar

Hi James, I'd hazard a guess that Putin is posing the question as a set up to a later announcement or even public consultation. One that's likely to follow achievement of the completion of the original stated goals of the SCO

Karl thanks for this concise update. Side by sides of SCO & BRICS in ever changing geopol waters always revealing. Lavrov's genuine warmth in the handshake photo clinches it for me

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james's avatar

that is possible too.. we'll see! i don't think the west is going to let russia under putins leadership, have the win so easily, short of ww3...hopefully i am wrong..

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Dave's Channel's avatar

I guess I'm saying Putin is posing a question to which he already has the answers and that he'll find a suitable moment to crystallize it into the public domain. A clear territorial achievement moment seems apropos. I'd further offer the ideological foundation will contain a clause of standing up for and protecting Russian lives, values and Russian culture wherever it exists.

I also get the feeling his patience with the west is running thin, a dangerous combination

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Anna's avatar
2dEdited

“All wars are bankers’ wars” (Smedley Butler) and the proven verity of tribal declaration “we Jews are destroyers” (Maurice Samuel, “You Gentile” 1924) point to a larger war, indeed.

The Gaza situation has revealed the incompatibility of judaic ideology with the core of western civilization, as well as the defenselessness of Humanity in the face of a western gangster supranational state (banking cartel + war profiteers).

A map of bunkers for the “owners” can be helpful for protecting the survival of Humanity.

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Dave's Channel's avatar

I really don't think it will come to that. The imperial lion is old & while not toothless there's gaps appearing and the fangs and claws are blunted and worn. Cunning honed by years of practice & trick box full, the execution doesn't have the muscle it once possessed. At some point a deal will be struck.

It's a violent space nonetheless when lions and Tigers fight, some will get gored or worse

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heikomr's avatar

I attribute the cause of the millennia-old struggle for dominance—primarily—to greed. Greed for wealth and even more wealth. Greed for power and even more power. Greed for fame and even more fame. There may be other, more emotional causes as well, such as arrogance, ideologies, and narcissism. But the main driving force is greed. Geopolitics serves as a means to an end here.

Has humanity crossed a Rubicon, with development inevitably leading to the end of hegemony? Or does the greed for more money and power—which also exists in BRICS and the Global South—cause this project to fail? I believe that even if there are setbacks, this development can no longer be stopped. On the one hand, any violence perpetrated by the hegemonic West, led by the U.S., will lead to a growing number of countries seeking an escape—and the new institutions offer themselves as lifelines. And, in a certain way, so does the "protective shield" of the great powers Russia and China. The larger, more chaotic, and more violent the actions of the U.S. and the West become, the more resources they consume, the more costs they incur, and the more their ability to develop their own economies weakens. As history teaches us, vassal states and provinces always break away from the empire when the empire itself is in decline.

Unfortunately, I will not live to see the end of this development or what will happen after this era. I’m so curious about it. But so be it—I must focus on surviving here and now. Perhaps soon without medication and adequate medical care, and under the effects of Russia’s military counterstrike on Germany. Without electricity and heating. The industrial, fiscal, physical, and demographic destruction of Germany seems intentional and is already in full swing.

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

IMO, it’s clear that China long ago determined the root cause you cite and its philosophers have tried to inoculate the culture and thus society with an ideology that steers the national entity away from the disasters greed causes. China’s current ideological basis continues to support the quest for Harmony on a global scale.

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Richard V's avatar

Good write-up! Absolutely agree. It seems to me the fundamental problem is building a system that serves ordinary people, one that creates common prosperity. The primary difficulty is keeping concentrations of wealth--and the power that typically goes with it--in check. Obviously Capitalism does not fill the bill. The fundamental ideological assumption becomes: private property and profit (the foundations of Capitalism) are not inviolable but must be subordinate to the Common Good.

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Loam's avatar

In response to your initial question, I personally prefer the second, but both evoke a much-loved term in these turbulent times: Hope. Something that, unfortunately, photos of Western "leaders" don't evoke.

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WTFUD's avatar

We have

Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) -

India, Iran, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, China, Russia, Pakistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, Belarus and Mongolia.

We have

Economic Cooperation Organisation (ECO)

Iran, Turkiye, Pakistan (founders), Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan.

We have

Collective Security Treaty Organisation (CSTO)

Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia and Tajikistan

Yes I know the CSTO is primarily a Security Organisation but barring India, Turkiye, China, Azerbaijan and Armenia, everyone else appears twice with Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan in all 3 organisations.

I've had it on good authority that the joker in Armenia's days are numbered and it will come into Russia's camp at the next election.

India needs to make its choice, in or out, and given that choice I believe in.

Azerbaijan after losing its refining interests in Ukraine recently, with its black-market shenanigans in Russia curtailed and its depleted oil reserves will come begging on its knees into the fold.

Economically, Politically, Security ALL of the above must come under one umbrella to thwart NATO and prosper.

Turkiye - Screw Them

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Don Firineach's avatar

# The second one - harmonious.

# Yes, the SCO is developing some rapidly developing baby teeth

# Power is ideological both in how it is gained and how it is used.

That said, I'm not getting into an argument on semantics with a legal scholar ...

# Ta for reminder on Hedges/Crooke - on my list but only so many hours in day

Keep up the good work.

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Loon's avatar

The garden one never sees with Lavrov smiling so unlike the misery he confronts.

Facts then turn into an ideology for what works ?

Mysterious workings of the Gods means it has to be real.

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Grasshopper Kaplan's avatar

My dad Vlad says we are all equal in the eyes of God

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Matthew Anderson's avatar

Very true, BRICS has an inescapable ideology that is in direct conflict with the West's ideology. I've argued this point on both Global South co and Naked Capitalism and they simply quote BRICS diplomatic speak. Well, the commentariat really needs to up its game because actions speak louder than words. The actions and counter actions here (including examples that you call out) are directly conflicting and have associated ideologies. For example, Brazil hosts BRICS and then is hit with 50% tariffs. So yes, there's conflict and yes simply asserting sovereignty after 50 years of hegemony is revolutionary and ideological. If any one of these commentariats believe all this diplomatic speak then I have a bridge in Ukraine to sell them which will surely be a safe investment because Trump and Putin both say they respect each other and want peace.

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Anna's avatar
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Vanessa Beeley:

“New Syria" is burning. Charred bodies are reported being found on the coast. This is what the UK,US, Israel and Turkey with help from Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the whole satanic alliance did to this beautiful country with 10,000 + of civilisation, history, a culture of such richness and diversity - they soaked the earth with blood, tore down everything this country was, the kindness, the generosity, the joy, life, dignity, pride - destroyed. This is what the West does, this is what Israel does, this is what the entire death-cult does - they create the elements that rape, burn, murder and steal.”

The US has de-sanctioned the US-sponsored butcher of Syria Al-Jewlani to approve these west-promoted “achievements” in Syria.

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Anna's avatar
2dEdited

Thank you!

The “tight state control over the financial system” in China and Russia seems to be the main point of a livid hatred emanating from the collective west’ owners toward these countries. The miserable puppets Ursula, macron, Rutte, Merz, et al have been parroting aggressive and stupid ideological vulgarities that are deadly for the future of western civilization.

To survive and thrive, Europe needs regime change, accompanied by a pragmatic reevaluation of her policies.

China and Russia offer a practical model of “uplifting citizens for the expense of none” (though the Vampire Squid of banking cartel and war profiteers would disagree) for Europe via mutually beneficial cooperation and trade. - Neither global jewry (of Samuel’s “You Gentile” mold) nor western banking cartel are ready to accept the model.

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jo6pac's avatar

I vote for picture #1.

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