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Ed's avatar

The idea of a US nuclear weapon out of the direct control of the US president no matter how debilitated is unimaginable!

That said transfer a weapon or two to Kiev would be "first use".

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james's avatar

the whole idea/suggestion is completely insane and shows the depravity that a dying empire is willing to resort to.... instead, an acknowledgement of a multipolar world and efforts to redefine one's role in this new reality, needs to be taken... when is it going to happen, or does the west have to be dragged, kicking and screaming into this world that is presently taking shape??

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Don Midwest's avatar

As Putin said about Ukraine, it will be settled on the battlefield.

The Russian leaders must have discussed how crazy the US/NATO would get when they faced the prospect of Capitulation. Hence the strategy of boiling the frog by going slow with the SMO.

Is the frog going to jump out of the pot to live another day, or is it going to go nuts and try to knock the pot over and die trying?

Do those in the US pushing escalation think that nothing will happen to cities in the US? The Europeans are in the target zone so they may be the ones who cool down the rhetoric.

And then there is Iran. I believe what I have read and seen. I believe that they prepared for a war with the US and cannot be defeated. I believe they could totally wipe out Israel but are taking measured steps. Hopefully before Trump comes into office with his Zionist buddies, they will be forced to face the prospect that escalation. like taking over the West Bank, could well lead to the end of Israel.

The US "citizens" and the media continue on their ways ignoring the cosmological change of the multipolar world.

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Ed's avatar

Contemplate the situation cancelled by theINF Treaty. 1980s US nuclear systems established in Europe could hit most of USSR and few thought it would not go MAD!

Some in west may feel same way.

So wrong in many planes.

Our media is scary, but not as the scary idea that Biden has almost 2 months.

Will Trump be sane?

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arthur brogard's avatar

Almost as frightening as the thought of a nuclear weapon under the direct control of a US president.

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John B Bartlett's avatar

We are playing an Idiot's Game. It is called NUCLEAR SUICIDE

Threat of Nuclear warfare is the most stupidly misunderstood asinine method of Mankind having it your way. Today’s One way Strategic Dirty Nuclear Blockbuster Bombs, make Hiroshima look like an X-box game. (God Love Modern Day Japan)

We are in-reality, talking about 24,000 years of clean-up of most of Planet Earth....if anyone is alive then. ( MAD ) is not a flippant Media lovingThreat. Stupid Stupid Stupid !!!

Think MARS. Grow Up, Love your Neighbor, and learn the real meaning of Negotiated PEACE in our World.

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

Life will continue, but yes insanity reigns.

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arthur brogard's avatar

All of this so that Kiev Ukraine might have the right to invade, conquer and ethnic cleanse the Donbas.

Forget the wider significances, the unseen hands, the blah, blah, true and terrible facts though they are.

To the people on the streets and the men in the trenches and the dead in their graves it is about Kiev Ukraine invading Donbas Ukraine.

A simple fact successfully with held from the Western masses by the Govts, the Main Stream Media, the Alt Media and the Clerisy right up to this present day. This present minute.

Less than a minute to midnight maybe.

Truly. The people do not matter do they?

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marcjf's avatar

My take is that he West is fighting a war of choice whereas this is an existential struggle for Russia. However many in the West seem to think this is existential for them also. In that case we have a problem, particularly with a POTUS who suffers from dementia. Neither side can back down. In a post-reality world, where narrative appears to take precedence over facts, the narrative that "the Putin" cannot be allowed to win has taken hold. Western politicians gambled and lost, but now prefer to kick over the table and burn down the Casino rather than walk out the door.

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

On 19 January 2022, I published one of my most widely read and shortest articles for my VK page, "Completely Outplayed by Russia's Diplomacy and Sabotaged by its Own Actions, The Outlaw US Empire is Now Having a Temper Tantrum," https://vk.com/@580896205-completely-outplayed-by-russias-diplomacy-and-sabotaged-by-i

Here are the two concluding paragraphs which IMO remain as valid today as then:

"Russia thus has a hand of 5 Aces, which are the two separate and later broken promises made regarding Germany's reunification and Warsaw Pact's decommissioning combined with no Eastern NATO movement, and the three separate OSCE Treaties on Collective European Security that all essentially say that no nation or group of nations can secure its/their security while making another nation insecure. Either the Outlaw US Empire apologizes for its wrongdoings, or it breaks the three treaties atop the other two promises it's already broken. Aside from overturning the card table, those are the only two possible outcomes. Russia has played its diplomatic hand superbly and has already won. The Anglo's problem is which choice to make in reply.

"What Blinken and NATO are doing is what sore losers and outlaws do when they're caught-out--they draw their 6-gun. Clearly, the Outlaw US Empire can't admit it was outplayed diplomatically, nor can it admit its dishonesty and issue an apology. It's acting like a juvenile delinquent by throwing a temper tantrum."

Another reply to your comment is within today's talk between Hudson, Wolff and Nima, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl8sBSx5lpI

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Loon's avatar

These Hegemon actors have 100 million deaths of other cultures notched into their ammo belt over the centuries so it hard to imagine their own children having any influence upon their psychosis.

It looks to be a terminal case.

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Grasshopper Kaplan's avatar

Russian loves our children.

Sadly I grew up in America, with like ten different sets of parents, which confirms my experience is of being hated to death here as a child, nearly killing me many times over, until they finally did as an adult. Sadly, America hates it's kids, but loves it's cars

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dornoch altbinhax's avatar

The US ruling class has gone full no holds barred insane. It's rendered moot all western controlled institutions, including the UN, G20/G7, IMF, BIS, etc, as completely useless and unfit. I expect that as this continues and Trump won't abate this insane attachment to primacy that diplomatic ruptures across the global south with the US and it's vassals are equally inevitable. Now imagine what isolation looks like when westerners can't traverse the world's central land mass. Of course empty shelves also focus minds, but too late.

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james's avatar

until the usa/uk acknowledges a multipolar, as opposed to unipolar world and makes some type of transition, talk and actions as we continue to see, will continue.. i quote from above - "...persistent attempts to preserve the remnants of their former dominance..."

this sums up the unwillingness, or inability to acknowledge a multipolar world.. until there is an open acknowledgement of this, the madness from the west, led by the usa - will continue...

keep up the great work karl.. thank you..

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Snerf's avatar

Exactamundo

Once Blackrock, et al develop an exit strategy in which they are confident they can successfully recreate their apex position in the west, they'll skip town like any experienced con man.

I'm sure right now they're still holding onto the dream of maintaining some portion of their loot, but ultimately even if they had to start over from scratch, it's better to land on your feet in the newly emerging dominant system rather than go down with the west.

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

There appears to be a glitch in the system where the reply/cancel buttons are missing, which is beyond my ability to fix.

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heikomr's avatar

What is my assessment? I expressly praise the prudence of the Russian government. But Russia now finds itself in a precarious situation. The impunity of the USA and the West will inevitably lead to further escalation. Whether 1 or 10 million people die in Ukraine is of no consequence to them. If the West itself does not pay a high price soon, which triggers a strong shock, then we will end up in a nuclear war. A further escalation and expansion of the war is not my wish. I am merely assessing the situation.

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Natalya Volkova's avatar

Yuzhmash. The media and the alternative celebrity experts have been gathering around the wrong Hazel tree and barked a lot. This interview is 10 days before Oreshnik.

https://tass-ru.turbopages.org/tass.ru/s/interviews/22350053

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

You're beyond wonderful, Natalya!!!!

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Snerf's avatar

We should all be hoping that the shape shifters can morph into Chinese.

The reason the west is taking a hard line is because that capability is currently lacking.

We can deduce this because the chosen don't have an escape route from the doomed dollar system.

If they could safely get out of dodge and start all over again under a new alias, we'd already be living in a post imperial hellscape.

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

Yes, an important point: The ancien regime has yet to figure out how to adapt to the new reality and use it to its advantage, and that's why we see so much hysteria.

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Bob marsden's avatar

‘Capitulation’ is a rhetorical term in persuasive discourse.

I’m in a fight, and have my opponent down on the ground with one arm twisted behind his back and my other hand forcing his head on to the hard surface. ‘I give in’ he says. I let him up. He then punches me in the face and kicks me in the balls. That was his capitulation.

A tactic of a bully is to admit defeat, causing his enemies to stop resisting. But he continues fighting them.

In Ukraine, to avoid this trick, Russia must continue demilitarising and deNazifying until the enemy is no more. If ‘we capitulate’ leads to Russia stopping the Special Military Operation, then it will have failed to achieve the intended outcome. Fooled again.

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

NATO Capitulation would include all those points I described as being resolved, the most important being a new Eurasian security arrangement. As Russia has now said many times, all SMO goals will be attained and then there's the much bigger fish I just mentioned. Russia intends to control the outcome and can do so because NATO can do nothing more than Capitulate or use its nukes, which amounts to the same thing--the utter, total loss of Primacy and an admission they can't cope with reality.

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Acco Hengst's avatar

American politicians and journalists are seriously discussing the consequences of the transfer of nuclear weapons to Kyiv.

The Russians took their nukes away. I doubt that the Russians gave them the key.

The USA has nuclear weapons in storage in Europe. The keys and the buttons belong to Uncle Sam. Not a single European country can use those nuclear weapons.

The politicians, in their tough talk, probably have no idea how the system works and no one is telling them.

Having worked deep inside the beast for fifteen years all I can say is that the lower regions are pleased that none of the 'leadership' has a clue about how the system works. This is a good thing. Makes no difference who is elected.

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Don Midwest's avatar

Change in the three dots

They used to be at the bottom right of your comment and you could edit or delete your comment.

Now the three dots appear on the line of your name or handle. Now they are on the top.

Or maybe I have had it wrong all this time and I didn't realize it.

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Karl Sanchez's avatar

It's easy to get confused between different sites and software.

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Loam's avatar

Here is a song by George Harrison that we could dedicate to the Western establishment and its infamous media:

"We were talking about the space between us all

And the people who hide themselves behind a wall of illusion

Never glimpse the truth, then it's far too late when they pass away"

George Harrison - Within You Without You

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