States pursue what they conceive to be their own interests. Russia has done much to preserve Syria from its enemies in the past twelve years. But what it iis unprepared to do - and what the imperialists are praying it will do- is to drive Turkiye and the Arab League countries, (most of whom supported the attempts to destabilise Syria but which have now, grudgingly, called off their campaigns of subversion) into the arms of the Empire, NATO and Israel.
As it happens Russia's strategy seems to be paying off- the US is totally committed to the genocidal Israeli govenment. And the populations of the aforementined Arab league states and Turkiye are putting their governments under all kind of pressure to break with the Empire.
These are developments which have been building over decades, centuries. Now they appear to be coming to fruition: the US (and just when it has silenced all competing points if view in Europe,too) is naked before world opinion, with its EU/NATO allies shivering and looking silly beside it as they repeat that "Israel has a right to defend itself by killing everyone it chooses to kill".
While Russia, which has bent over backwards (much to surferket's disgust) to keep the peace is overcoming the lies and distortions and nazified propaganda of generations of indoctrination by presenting itself, to a world desperate for an alternative to the racist bully and his gang, as a voice of sweet reason and a possible candidate for abitration.
Unlike our poor frustrated friend from the south end of the Malay peninsula, I suspect that President Assad is hooing that the long nightmare of living under the shadow of the bullies is coming to an end.
And I've been frustrated since 2014 with the Atlanticist Putin. The heroes of Donbass were all killed by Putin. Not the Nazis who were running for their lives and had only a road block outside of Mariupol. Strelkov would have been assassinated by the "Nazis" if he refused to return to Russia as ordered by Putin. Poor Prigo. We all knew who killed him in the end.
Putin has no problem killing Russians but stop at the real external enemies of Russia.
You're dreaming. Sane people do not negotiate with psychopathic evil War Criminals - they kill them!
What is wrong with you and others that you do not see that ** RUSSIA is totally committed to the genocidal Israeli government!**
And Putin Russia are committed to the DELUSION of the failed Two State solution ... the Jewish Zionist Israelis and NEOCONS in the US / UK have rejected for over 100 years already ... seriously? No one can be this blind to reality surely?
The article said there are many Russian Jews in Israel. More like million over and many are rich ogliarchs. Their money do affect Russia's economy.
Putin's balls are squeezed hard. That's why he cannot condemn Israel genocide of Palestinians. And China openly did it because China don't have much skin in Israel.
I'm sure you do know that China will do nothing more than what China has done in the past. Syria belongs to Russia. Assad thought differently and that's why he went to China.
I have to respectfully disagree that the protests around the world are anti-Israel. They're anti-genocide of Palestinian people. According to many experts genocide is being committed in Gaza, and so many of us are feeling let down by our leaders who are either vetoing or abstaining from the vote to demand a ceasefire. Many Jewish people are involved with and even organizing these protests.
Your observation's correct. Many Jews abhor what's happening since they aren't Zionists. Jews per se aren't the fanatics; rather, it's the Zionists who have always been that way. Fanatic, exceptionalist ideologies have developed several times over the course of human history and caused great damage and massive carnage. The Crusades are but one example. The Outlaw US Empire's Manifest Destiny is another example. Zionism and Nazism are others. All have similar core "values"/mindsets. And there are others that interact with them. There are psychologists and sociologists who specialize in the study of those groups and their dynamics, but I'm not one of them, although I do know a few important aspects as they relate to my area of study.
As you'll have read at the end of Lavrov's address to Russia's fledgling diplomats, the fundamental basis for relations is acceptance of all as equals--nations as well as individuals. And that's still a radical concept many have yet to accept, and that breeds chaos and conflict. How to get people to accept that premise is an ongoing problem, and there doesn't seem to be any magic solution. When I taught, I referred to the Broadway show and subsequent Movie "South Pacific" which has a very important theme that's delivered in one particular scene and song about having been "Carefully Taught," which was something the powers the be at the time tried very hard to get excised from the production, but the producers steadfastly refused. And you've probably surmised that it's about the issue of equality and how we are carefully taught during our upbringing who to hate and fear--peoples, nations, ideas, etc. All these years later, the musical was performed from 1949 onward, that message remains very powerful and true. Here's the link to its Wiki bio if you're unfamiliar with it as many are, with that particular song having its own internal link as you'll see, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pacific_(musical)
I'm noticing how so many children's movies are about dominance, violence and royalty -- an education indeed about who matters, who doesn't and how disputes are settled. It starts at a very early age, doesn't it? Thanks for the link to South Pacific. I'll watch it one of these days when I have the time.
The reason I sought a second career in education was to try and make a difference in the world, a choice that was made before 911. As I've aged, the realization of how we're manipulated by media has widened. Knowing how the Catholic (Universal) church has operated since @150AD is also very important as it was the "media" until 1900, and even later in many instances. One of the most important and intriguing courses I took in College was Cognitive Psychology, which is about how we learn, with Linguistics being a close second and dealt with how we learn our native language(s).
When you finally watch "South Pacific," you'll see there are several themes running though the show, which is set during WW2. IMO, it's a timeless production, stage or screen. It's good you see the manipulation happening as not everyone can.
I appreciated the "... this may not "caress the ear" and may not correspond to some momentary conjuncture. That is the true path to normalcy and long-term peace." words. That I suppose is the difference between commentators and representatives. The latter have 'a duty' the former have 'opinions'. Here in the UK we have Cruella Braverman who appears to have a confused notion of those two concepts.
That was quite a read. A lot of information there. Explanations regarding a number of items. Somehow I’m left with what a difference there is between Maria and Biden’s clown Jean Pierre.
Karlof is a big observer of China so you should know that Assad's high profile visit to China was a huge nothing-burger with China making mealymouth sounds signifying Nothingness.
China will do nothing more for Syria beyond what China is already doing, providing police weapons and equipment, and construction and rail machinery.
Syria joined the Belt Road in 2022 but cannot enjoy the fruits because they are a warzone.
reading the global times article, i came away with a positive view on it all, which is different then the way you are portraying it.. why is that? russia wasn't mentioned in the article either..
Russia should stop whining about being exterminated as a country and as a people by vicious rabid killers. Talking about it does absolutely nothing to stop it but actually encourage more vicious methods since it's clear the killings hurt. Therefore it is working.
And stop talking about Syria getting bombed by Israel as Syrian AD is totally under Russian control. We saw already in Crimea and Ukraine how effective Russian AD is in practically 100% shootdown. Russia is there to stop the terrorists from seizing control of Syria. Not to stop US and their poodles from abusing Syria.
Even China could have helped with the AD but refrained as Syria is under Russia's sphere of interests.
I again agree. They are like whining depressives suffering from spouse abuse but unwilling to lift a finger to defend themselves or take serious action, like DEFEND THEMSELVES and/or WALK AWAY from the ABUSER!
Russia and Putin should instead PUT UP OR JUST SHUT UP.
US donations to Israeli genocide are a provocation for broader war to degrade Iran before it is strong enough to prevent future Israeli and US crimes against Muslim humanity.
Propaganda cannot hide the horror perpetrated bc US and it’s vassals.
(my final comment and ref and will let to go .... I don;t want to be a pest by simply present an alternative pov framing that is valid and factual)
Russia has a great friend and colleague in Israel because Russia understands it's point of view so well and is able to MEDIATE between it and it's Arab Palestinian enemies ..... sorry - in your dreams maybe Zakharova .
Why does Russia choose to be "friends" with a war criminal terrorist state one who repeatedly bags and undermines Russia publicly? Israel is as friendly to Russia as the UK US and NATO are.
QUOTE: Israel launches attack on Russia at UN
West Jerusalem said it would not accept any criticism from Moscow
"Israel has accused Russia of denying the country its right to “self-defense” after Moscow’s ambassador to the UN, Vassily Nebenzia, criticized the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) over their ongoing military campaign in Gaza.
West Jerusalem was “outraged” by the Russian diplomat’s statements, the Israeli Ynet news media outlet reported on Thursday, adding that relations between the two nations have been in decline amid the continued IDF operation in Gaza.
On Wednesday, Nebenzia told an emergency session of the UN General Assembly that Israel could not cite self-defense as a reason for its invasion into Gaza, as it had no jurisdiction to operate in the enclave in the first place and was acting as an “occupying power” there.
Israel’s ambassador to the international body, Gilad Erdan, hit back by saying it was “ridiculous to hear … the Russian representative preach morality to Israel on the issues of human rights and international law.” He also said Moscow was “the last place that can preach to us,” pointing out Russia’s expulsion from the UN Human Rights Council."
I maintain Zakharova's framing (especially her answers in Q&A section is a distortion of known history and the present circumstances and the actual options that are still available for Russia to take - iow she is covering up using sophistry however one chooses to label it. My comments are not a "condemnation" of her or Russia either, they are specific and nuanced and based on factual truths (imo), and very sincere.
So for your consideration : For example Article 51 Chapter 7 of the UN Charter:
Chapter VII — Action with respect to Threats to the Peace, Breaches of the Peace, and Acts of Aggression Article 51 (caps for emphasis mine)
“Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or COLLECTIVE SELF-DEFENSE if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.”
In this regard as a global power Russia (and China) should be leading such responses under Art 51 by a coalition of states against the violent aggression / genocide / war crimes upon the Palestinian peoples by Israel - for the explicit reasoning that the UNSC has refuses to act in their self-defence. That such an effort could not possibly be seen as either illegal nor evil which Zakharova uses and her reasons for Russia not "being able" to act (?). While Russia fails to act under UN / International Law it's throws words of blame and guilt at the USA instead. I just that's pretty weak argument and an abdication of it;s responsibility, ability to act.
Please also see the basic legal rights and protections afforded by the The Responsibility to Protect
Please note eg "The main obstacle, however, remains the strong political interests on the part of powerful States that work against early action to address situations in which populations are at risk. This was clearly the case as the crisis mounted in Syria during the summer of 2011, and has continued to block decisive action as the civil war featured more frequent and brutal instances of atrocity crimes. We have seen it operate more recently in other situations, including in Yemen."
OK for Syria, not OK for Palestine? Russia (and China) is playing politics here. It's hypocrisy hiding behind "diplomatic rhetoric" by Zakharova and other Russia Officials all the way to Putin (imv) . I'm claiming that RUSSIA and others in unison could enforce a CEASEFIRE (no fly zones arms embargoes etc) and then enforce long-term negotiations and a humane and legal settlement that fully supports Human Rights under the UN Charter - by doing so they can LEGALLY and MORALLY push the US/UK/NATO to the sidelines and the failed UN/UNSC.
I'm saying Zakharova is pretending these options do not exist, and could not be app;lied. They can be. Russia chooses not to and then denies they have the legal rights to act that way when they do - PROOF is in SYRIA, there are others.
Now, I recommend readers review the historical record of what the USSR did for the ANC from the 50s into the 1990s .... and I posit that they could have been doing the very same thing for Hamas/PLO/PIJ on behalf of the Palestinian peoples and so on for decades, as well right now today - Russia Putin instead consciously choose not to act like this:
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) and the Anti-Apartheid Struggle
(save time and focus on the last 25% from the 1970s)
Russia does not consider Hamas a "terrorist organization" btw - if Israel and the US do so what? SA and the USA / UK considered the ANC a terrorist organization too - it never stopped Russia standing up for what is right and just.
My point? Zakharova is extremely knowledgeable, and yet in her long-winded verbose and wandering commentary (I call sophistry) she consciously chooses to cherry-pick some historical items and ignore a mountain of more pertinent comparisons under International Law and Geopolitical Diplomatic nuances of defending Oppressed peoples under military attack by an inhuman genocidal murderous apartheid State for decades. (including Angola and Namibia)
That being said, Russia of course has rthe perfect right to choose what it does, for all kinds fo reasons, that's ok by me even if I disagree and consider them being weak .... my real complaint about this presser is how much Zakharova is distorting what real options exist, and refuses to explain or justify why they have been rejected in this situation of Gaza.
Cheers
PS I added some of my reasoning below and explain how it supports my "opinions" fwiw
99% observers don't know China saved Putin's ass from being deep reemed by US back in 2014 after Russia stopped US from grabbing Crimea.
Even today Russia won't openly thank China, and China is too polite to publicly remind Putin.
And there's also another US$400 billion oil deal.
That's how Russia survived the early sanctions.
And before that Putin hated China and saw Japan as a business partner despite China begging him to build pipelines offset from Putin's loved pipelines to Japan. Putin refused.
This also explains why even today RT and Sputnik have obvious anti China slant in converage. Only Sputnik managed to change but not RT. It was very common for them to use US govt anti China disinformation as "news".
These are my saved links from 2014. No idea how many still survived purged by US govt.
Chinese money saved Russia's economy from imploding after foreign attacks. China prefers to do the Walking.
offering to join NATO was calling bluff on the trojan horse called NATO... russia is a part of the larger european continent, but its exclusion has been a forgone conclusion due the the western power structure and its attempt at maintaining that same power..
the other thing... the 2 way street between russia and china is mutually beneficial... you make it sound like china gets no benefit from it all and that china is just saving russias bacon in it all.. something is missing in your conclusions as i see it..
In case some Putin lovers are butthurt that I dare criticise their Putin god just ask yourself if you accept freedom of speech, and whether I actually have earned my stripes showing my friends in Singapore the real situation in Donbass back in 2014.
Back then the only real info on the fighting were found on Saker, South Front, Cassad, and Strelkov. Yes Strelkov that everyone loves to hate today because Putin said he's a traitor. But back in 2014 he was the inspiration to the Donbass rebels.
Take a look at my FB posts covering the shit in Donbass.
Like please, can anyone explain why it is a powerful nation like Russia cannot take down (repeatedly if needed) the Myrotvorets website / servers using it's advanced MIL GRADE HACKING interference skills?
In fact why can't they take out the entire server operation of whomever is hosting that website - even if it is the CIAs servers .... or at least repeatedly disrupt it 24/7 forever until they drop the website and everyone else refuses to host it?
Because the only thing Russia can do is COMPLAIN and MOAN about all the "horrible bad things the evil west and Ukraine" does to it .... sniffle, oh woe is me ... they are weak cowards imo.
The existence of Myrotvorets is handy evidence of the morality of Ukraine and a litmus test for the EU/USA's application/non-application of justice. Why take something down that doesn't change the intent? Instead use it as a propaganda weapon.
Because it's Criminal .... incitement to murder. It's evil in action - That's why?
Please check your sophistry and bad thinking processes. Why not leave all the Child Porno sites up so people can see how sick other people are and fund the Police better? Seriously, I think you need to get a grip - though moreso Russia does.
But whatever. I did ask if anyone could explain it - didn't I? So thanks for the reply. You honestly tried. Cheers
My disgust for the website doesn't matter as much as context. Child porn versus geopolitical strategy is like cucumbers versus aliens. Russia has followed the legal route. Regards trying, I have written in support of Faina Savenkova. Hopefully you're trying too (beyond your comments here).
States pursue what they conceive to be their own interests. Russia has done much to preserve Syria from its enemies in the past twelve years. But what it iis unprepared to do - and what the imperialists are praying it will do- is to drive Turkiye and the Arab League countries, (most of whom supported the attempts to destabilise Syria but which have now, grudgingly, called off their campaigns of subversion) into the arms of the Empire, NATO and Israel.
As it happens Russia's strategy seems to be paying off- the US is totally committed to the genocidal Israeli govenment. And the populations of the aforementined Arab league states and Turkiye are putting their governments under all kind of pressure to break with the Empire.
These are developments which have been building over decades, centuries. Now they appear to be coming to fruition: the US (and just when it has silenced all competing points if view in Europe,too) is naked before world opinion, with its EU/NATO allies shivering and looking silly beside it as they repeat that "Israel has a right to defend itself by killing everyone it chooses to kill".
While Russia, which has bent over backwards (much to surferket's disgust) to keep the peace is overcoming the lies and distortions and nazified propaganda of generations of indoctrination by presenting itself, to a world desperate for an alternative to the racist bully and his gang, as a voice of sweet reason and a possible candidate for abitration.
Unlike our poor frustrated friend from the south end of the Malay peninsula, I suspect that President Assad is hooing that the long nightmare of living under the shadow of the bullies is coming to an end.
And I've been frustrated since 2014 with the Atlanticist Putin. The heroes of Donbass were all killed by Putin. Not the Nazis who were running for their lives and had only a road block outside of Mariupol. Strelkov would have been assassinated by the "Nazis" if he refused to return to Russia as ordered by Putin. Poor Prigo. We all knew who killed him in the end.
Putin has no problem killing Russians but stop at the real external enemies of Russia.
Sean you may live in China or Singapore but your head is in America.
Sean, Huh? You mean surferket, yeah?
Sorry Yes i did. No offence I trust. Normally surferket and I agree but.
Oh no, not a problem.
"and a possible candidate for abitration."
You're dreaming. Sane people do not negotiate with psychopathic evil War Criminals - they kill them!
What is wrong with you and others that you do not see that ** RUSSIA is totally committed to the genocidal Israeli government!**
And Putin Russia are committed to the DELUSION of the failed Two State solution ... the Jewish Zionist Israelis and NEOCONS in the US / UK have rejected for over 100 years already ... seriously? No one can be this blind to reality surely?
The article said there are many Russian Jews in Israel. More like million over and many are rich ogliarchs. Their money do affect Russia's economy.
Putin's balls are squeezed hard. That's why he cannot condemn Israel genocide of Palestinians. And China openly did it because China don't have much skin in Israel.
that's hoping not hooing!
I'm sure you do know that China will do nothing more than what China has done in the past. Syria belongs to Russia. Assad thought differently and that's why he went to China.
syria belongs to syria... russia is a helpful friend.. that's all.. this ownership concept imposed here is weird as i see it..
I have to respectfully disagree that the protests around the world are anti-Israel. They're anti-genocide of Palestinian people. According to many experts genocide is being committed in Gaza, and so many of us are feeling let down by our leaders who are either vetoing or abstaining from the vote to demand a ceasefire. Many Jewish people are involved with and even organizing these protests.
Your observation's correct. Many Jews abhor what's happening since they aren't Zionists. Jews per se aren't the fanatics; rather, it's the Zionists who have always been that way. Fanatic, exceptionalist ideologies have developed several times over the course of human history and caused great damage and massive carnage. The Crusades are but one example. The Outlaw US Empire's Manifest Destiny is another example. Zionism and Nazism are others. All have similar core "values"/mindsets. And there are others that interact with them. There are psychologists and sociologists who specialize in the study of those groups and their dynamics, but I'm not one of them, although I do know a few important aspects as they relate to my area of study.
As you'll have read at the end of Lavrov's address to Russia's fledgling diplomats, the fundamental basis for relations is acceptance of all as equals--nations as well as individuals. And that's still a radical concept many have yet to accept, and that breeds chaos and conflict. How to get people to accept that premise is an ongoing problem, and there doesn't seem to be any magic solution. When I taught, I referred to the Broadway show and subsequent Movie "South Pacific" which has a very important theme that's delivered in one particular scene and song about having been "Carefully Taught," which was something the powers the be at the time tried very hard to get excised from the production, but the producers steadfastly refused. And you've probably surmised that it's about the issue of equality and how we are carefully taught during our upbringing who to hate and fear--peoples, nations, ideas, etc. All these years later, the musical was performed from 1949 onward, that message remains very powerful and true. Here's the link to its Wiki bio if you're unfamiliar with it as many are, with that particular song having its own internal link as you'll see, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pacific_(musical)
I'm noticing how so many children's movies are about dominance, violence and royalty -- an education indeed about who matters, who doesn't and how disputes are settled. It starts at a very early age, doesn't it? Thanks for the link to South Pacific. I'll watch it one of these days when I have the time.
The reason I sought a second career in education was to try and make a difference in the world, a choice that was made before 911. As I've aged, the realization of how we're manipulated by media has widened. Knowing how the Catholic (Universal) church has operated since @150AD is also very important as it was the "media" until 1900, and even later in many instances. One of the most important and intriguing courses I took in College was Cognitive Psychology, which is about how we learn, with Linguistics being a close second and dealt with how we learn our native language(s).
When you finally watch "South Pacific," you'll see there are several themes running though the show, which is set during WW2. IMO, it's a timeless production, stage or screen. It's good you see the manipulation happening as not everyone can.
Wow! 48 comments and counting...
I appreciated the "... this may not "caress the ear" and may not correspond to some momentary conjuncture. That is the true path to normalcy and long-term peace." words. That I suppose is the difference between commentators and representatives. The latter have 'a duty' the former have 'opinions'. Here in the UK we have Cruella Braverman who appears to have a confused notion of those two concepts.
Karl, you're evil. You distracted me from my morning intentions so that I had to add https://mikehampton.substack.com/p/moldova-matters
I'm stealing the Moldova section. I'm guilty of having been looking at too much else instead of following up on https://mikehampton.substack.com/p/cold-war-battleground-of-moldova-transnistria - thanks.
That was quite a read. A lot of information there. Explanations regarding a number of items. Somehow I’m left with what a difference there is between Maria and Biden’s clown Jean Pierre.
Karlof is a big observer of China so you should know that Assad's high profile visit to China was a huge nothing-burger with China making mealymouth sounds signifying Nothingness.
China will do nothing more for Syria beyond what China is already doing, providing police weapons and equipment, and construction and rail machinery.
Syria joined the Belt Road in 2022 but cannot enjoy the fruits because they are a warzone.
Syria is just a game to Russia.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202309/1298729.shtml
reading the global times article, i came away with a positive view on it all, which is different then the way you are portraying it.. why is that? russia wasn't mentioned in the article either..
Sadly I must agree.
I live in China. Even Karlof understands China very well.
Russia should stop whining about being exterminated as a country and as a people by vicious rabid killers. Talking about it does absolutely nothing to stop it but actually encourage more vicious methods since it's clear the killings hurt. Therefore it is working.
And stop talking about Syria getting bombed by Israel as Syrian AD is totally under Russian control. We saw already in Crimea and Ukraine how effective Russian AD is in practically 100% shootdown. Russia is there to stop the terrorists from seizing control of Syria. Not to stop US and their poodles from abusing Syria.
Even China could have helped with the AD but refrained as Syria is under Russia's sphere of interests.
"Russia should stop whining .... "
I again agree. They are like whining depressives suffering from spouse abuse but unwilling to lift a finger to defend themselves or take serious action, like DEFEND THEMSELVES and/or WALK AWAY from the ABUSER!
Russia and Putin should instead PUT UP OR JUST SHUT UP.
Putin was the original Atlanticist.
US donations to Israeli genocide are a provocation for broader war to degrade Iran before it is strong enough to prevent future Israeli and US crimes against Muslim humanity.
Propaganda cannot hide the horror perpetrated bc US and it’s vassals.
But only all out war and overwhelming force will ever stop them.
(my final comment and ref and will let to go .... I don;t want to be a pest by simply present an alternative pov framing that is valid and factual)
Russia has a great friend and colleague in Israel because Russia understands it's point of view so well and is able to MEDIATE between it and it's Arab Palestinian enemies ..... sorry - in your dreams maybe Zakharova .
Why does Russia choose to be "friends" with a war criminal terrorist state one who repeatedly bags and undermines Russia publicly? Israel is as friendly to Russia as the UK US and NATO are.
QUOTE: Israel launches attack on Russia at UN
West Jerusalem said it would not accept any criticism from Moscow
"Israel has accused Russia of denying the country its right to “self-defense” after Moscow’s ambassador to the UN, Vassily Nebenzia, criticized the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) over their ongoing military campaign in Gaza.
West Jerusalem was “outraged” by the Russian diplomat’s statements, the Israeli Ynet news media outlet reported on Thursday, adding that relations between the two nations have been in decline amid the continued IDF operation in Gaza.
On Wednesday, Nebenzia told an emergency session of the UN General Assembly that Israel could not cite self-defense as a reason for its invasion into Gaza, as it had no jurisdiction to operate in the enclave in the first place and was acting as an “occupying power” there.
Israel’s ambassador to the international body, Gilad Erdan, hit back by saying it was “ridiculous to hear … the Russian representative preach morality to Israel on the issues of human rights and international law.” He also said Moscow was “the last place that can preach to us,” pointing out Russia’s expulsion from the UN Human Rights Council."
https://www.rt.com/news/586542-israel-attack-russia-un/
I maintain Zakharova's framing (especially her answers in Q&A section is a distortion of known history and the present circumstances and the actual options that are still available for Russia to take - iow she is covering up using sophistry however one chooses to label it. My comments are not a "condemnation" of her or Russia either, they are specific and nuanced and based on factual truths (imo), and very sincere.
So for your consideration : For example Article 51 Chapter 7 of the UN Charter:
Chapter VII — Action with respect to Threats to the Peace, Breaches of the Peace, and Acts of Aggression Article 51 (caps for emphasis mine)
“Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or COLLECTIVE SELF-DEFENSE if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.”
https://legal.un.org/repertory/art51.shtml
See Supp. Analysis and historical precedents of Art 51 - in particular Introductory Note 1 - (can't copy text) in that it does not only apply to defending other "states" but people and threats to peace. https://legal.un.org/repertory/art51/english/rep_supp6_vol3_art51.pdf
In this regard as a global power Russia (and China) should be leading such responses under Art 51 by a coalition of states against the violent aggression / genocide / war crimes upon the Palestinian peoples by Israel - for the explicit reasoning that the UNSC has refuses to act in their self-defence. That such an effort could not possibly be seen as either illegal nor evil which Zakharova uses and her reasons for Russia not "being able" to act (?). While Russia fails to act under UN / International Law it's throws words of blame and guilt at the USA instead. I just that's pretty weak argument and an abdication of it;s responsibility, ability to act.
Please also see the basic legal rights and protections afforded by the The Responsibility to Protect
https://www.un.org/en/chronicle/article/responsibility-protect
Please note eg "The main obstacle, however, remains the strong political interests on the part of powerful States that work against early action to address situations in which populations are at risk. This was clearly the case as the crisis mounted in Syria during the summer of 2011, and has continued to block decisive action as the civil war featured more frequent and brutal instances of atrocity crimes. We have seen it operate more recently in other situations, including in Yemen."
OK for Syria, not OK for Palestine? Russia (and China) is playing politics here. It's hypocrisy hiding behind "diplomatic rhetoric" by Zakharova and other Russia Officials all the way to Putin (imv) . I'm claiming that RUSSIA and others in unison could enforce a CEASEFIRE (no fly zones arms embargoes etc) and then enforce long-term negotiations and a humane and legal settlement that fully supports Human Rights under the UN Charter - by doing so they can LEGALLY and MORALLY push the US/UK/NATO to the sidelines and the failed UN/UNSC.
I'm saying Zakharova is pretending these options do not exist, and could not be app;lied. They can be. Russia chooses not to and then denies they have the legal rights to act that way when they do - PROOF is in SYRIA, there are others.
Now, I recommend readers review the historical record of what the USSR did for the ANC from the 50s into the 1990s .... and I posit that they could have been doing the very same thing for Hamas/PLO/PIJ on behalf of the Palestinian peoples and so on for decades, as well right now today - Russia Putin instead consciously choose not to act like this:
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) and the Anti-Apartheid Struggle
(save time and focus on the last 25% from the 1970s)
https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/union-soviet-socialist-republics-ussr-and-anti-apartheid-struggle
Russia does not consider Hamas a "terrorist organization" btw - if Israel and the US do so what? SA and the USA / UK considered the ANC a terrorist organization too - it never stopped Russia standing up for what is right and just.
My point? Zakharova is extremely knowledgeable, and yet in her long-winded verbose and wandering commentary (I call sophistry) she consciously chooses to cherry-pick some historical items and ignore a mountain of more pertinent comparisons under International Law and Geopolitical Diplomatic nuances of defending Oppressed peoples under military attack by an inhuman genocidal murderous apartheid State for decades. (including Angola and Namibia)
That being said, Russia of course has rthe perfect right to choose what it does, for all kinds fo reasons, that's ok by me even if I disagree and consider them being weak .... my real complaint about this presser is how much Zakharova is distorting what real options exist, and refuses to explain or justify why they have been rejected in this situation of Gaza.
Cheers
PS I added some of my reasoning below and explain how it supports my "opinions" fwiw
https://open.substack.com/pub/karlof1/p/complexities-and-conundrums-zakharovas?r=17cmx8&utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&utm_medium=web&comments=true&commentId=43028621
fascinating and disturbing karl, especially the last question that you chronicle with zakharova's specific answer with details.. very disturbing...
99% observers don't know China saved Putin's ass from being deep reemed by US back in 2014 after Russia stopped US from grabbing Crimea.
Even today Russia won't openly thank China, and China is too polite to publicly remind Putin.
And there's also another US$400 billion oil deal.
That's how Russia survived the early sanctions.
And before that Putin hated China and saw Japan as a business partner despite China begging him to build pipelines offset from Putin's loved pipelines to Japan. Putin refused.
This also explains why even today RT and Sputnik have obvious anti China slant in converage. Only Sputnik managed to change but not RT. It was very common for them to use US govt anti China disinformation as "news".
These are my saved links from 2014. No idea how many still survived purged by US govt.
Chinese money saved Russia's economy from imploding after foreign attacks. China prefers to do the Walking.
http://rt.com/business/207703-ruble-yuan-trade-turnover/
BBC News - Russia signs 30-year gas deal with China[
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27503017
Russia, China Add to $400 Billion Gas Deal With Accord - Bloomberg
http://www.yerepouni-news.com/archives/145681
Russia - China Alliance
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-great-russia-china-oil-alliance-here-why-it-matters-17883
It was also from that moment on that US really hated China and declared China a direct threat to US interests, more so than Russia.
very interesting commentary from you surferfet.. thanks.. i am not sure what to make of it either..
follow the links then. And remember that Putin saw Russia as an European country and offered to join NATO.
offering to join NATO was calling bluff on the trojan horse called NATO... russia is a part of the larger european continent, but its exclusion has been a forgone conclusion due the the western power structure and its attempt at maintaining that same power..
the other thing... the 2 way street between russia and china is mutually beneficial... you make it sound like china gets no benefit from it all and that china is just saving russias bacon in it all.. something is missing in your conclusions as i see it..
Look at it in context of time frame. Not at today's context.
Factually China did saved Russia back in 2014. US$800 billion is not some lollipop money.
Factually Putin hated China before then.
Russia sold Brahmos technology to India in 1998 knowing full well that India WILL use it against China if major war broke out.
And no, Putin was serious about joining NATO. That's been clear from various commentaries.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/defence/the-business-of-brahmos-how-indias-defence-exports-blasted-off/articleshow/100961603.cms
In case some Putin lovers are butthurt that I dare criticise their Putin god just ask yourself if you accept freedom of speech, and whether I actually have earned my stripes showing my friends in Singapore the real situation in Donbass back in 2014.
Back then the only real info on the fighting were found on Saker, South Front, Cassad, and Strelkov. Yes Strelkov that everyone loves to hate today because Putin said he's a traitor. But back in 2014 he was the inspiration to the Donbass rebels.
Take a look at my FB posts covering the shit in Donbass.
https://www.facebook.com/markchia007?mibextid=ZbWKwL
Just search my posts on "donestsk".
moa covered this dynamic as well... i guess you have only been following moa more recently..
Please people .... the "difference there is between Maria and Biden’s clown Jean Pierre" ... is totally irrelevant to everything.
Is this the only "takeaway" you can find in all of it? Seriously. Oh, sigh. I really give up.
Like please, can anyone explain why it is a powerful nation like Russia cannot take down (repeatedly if needed) the Myrotvorets website / servers using it's advanced MIL GRADE HACKING interference skills?
In fact why can't they take out the entire server operation of whomever is hosting that website - even if it is the CIAs servers .... or at least repeatedly disrupt it 24/7 forever until they drop the website and everyone else refuses to host it?
Because the only thing Russia can do is COMPLAIN and MOAN about all the "horrible bad things the evil west and Ukraine" does to it .... sniffle, oh woe is me ... they are weak cowards imo.
The existence of Myrotvorets is handy evidence of the morality of Ukraine and a litmus test for the EU/USA's application/non-application of justice. Why take something down that doesn't change the intent? Instead use it as a propaganda weapon.
Because it's Criminal .... incitement to murder. It's evil in action - That's why?
Please check your sophistry and bad thinking processes. Why not leave all the Child Porno sites up so people can see how sick other people are and fund the Police better? Seriously, I think you need to get a grip - though moreso Russia does.
But whatever. I did ask if anyone could explain it - didn't I? So thanks for the reply. You honestly tried. Cheers
My disgust for the website doesn't matter as much as context. Child porn versus geopolitical strategy is like cucumbers versus aliens. Russia has followed the legal route. Regards trying, I have written in support of Faina Savenkova. Hopefully you're trying too (beyond your comments here).
No worries.
hey sean.. i think your opinions are just that - opinions... and i don't think they hold up under the light of day either..
That's fine. I'm not running a country (thank god) cheers