And while reading the text, it should be clear why the Outlaw US Empire and its vassals would oppose such an initiative as quite simply they would be unable to control it and use it for their own ends.
The West has been poisoning that well for some years now. Chinaphobia stands right next to Russophobia in the Western lexicon. Trust no one, except us.
That magic carpet is increasingly showing wear marks.
Thanks for warning us about a long read. Most of our leaders have no clue about Chinese culture and thought, Confucianism. Nowhere in these speeches is the concept of the Mandate of Heaven explored, probably because the Mandate essentially governs the internal behavior of the government rather than foreign policy. It has no direct effect of foreign policy, but it does have strong indirect effects.
Actually the concepts of Harmony and Balance are mentioned, But yes, for Chinese and most East Asians, the tenets are self-evident. Confucianism in modern geopolitics is a topic to be explored. There're some excellent recent publications on that in English.
I intend to post the transcript of the "This is China" program that I cited as it has much more info and insight into how China sees itself which translates into what it sees as the reasonableness of its proposals.
Sep 28, 2023·edited Sep 28, 2023Liked by Karl Sanchez
"This one essay equals one semester of graduate seminar work on the current topic, unfortunately without all the discussion. That readers will need to generate within their own circles by sharing this with their friends and family as there’s nothing unreasonable in Xi Jinping’s proposals whatsoever unless you’re one of the afflicted. Knowing what’s been proposed also kills the Establishment Narrative aiming at demonizing both Russia and China and all other nations that join with them in common cause."
Well, I don't think it equals a whole semester of graduate work (!) but I do thank you for putting it together.
It all sounds fine in principle - very much so - but there are never any specifics and of course it remains to be seen if the Wicked West will just allow them to rise peacefully (as they should). So far so good, if you ignore the hundreds of thousands who died the last year or so in Ukraine. The idea and ideal of a unified world at peace is not new, but in this era we have a better chance than ever before to realize it. Indeed, we already live in a single world order of sorts, but obviously there are several leading factions at odds with each other. The Chinese model sketched out above presupposes everyone being 'in the same boat', on the same page, essentially in the same Party like the CPC. I believe this is the correct approach on many levels but whether it is realizable remains to be seen.
Right now the RoW has a great Demon to counteract, to resist, who provides them great motivation to unite against it. Once the Demon is subdued, which will most likely happen this century one way or another, then what? What will unite them? Everything in Xi's speeches sounds excellent. It's just never happened before in world history and this vision contains no administrative or procedural recommendations whatsoever. It's pure vision.
That's good for now, perhaps. But words don't cook rice. They are building a coalition of sorts - though Xi often recommends against that sort of thing - and are walking their talk, not starting wars, not conquering other countries, aiding developing countries and developing global infrastructure. So, yes, typical US anti-Chinese and anti-Russian rhetoric seems off. But they are taking on a very big thing armed with an ideological vision of making the world a perfect place.
I fear the whole thing may prove far more risky than it might seem to the casual reader going through all these positive statements; and if history is any guide, ideologically led movements, no matter how well intentioned, often result in the deaths of a high percentage of the involved populations - witness England, France, Russia, China and more.
What China's promoting is the notion that humanity is one big family, which it is actually. As I wrote at the end of today's second article, humanity must evolve beyond what might be termed its barbarian age given how fellow humans are treated. The key to accomplishing that IMO is to eliminate the idea that Others exist, although there are clearly outliers as not all humans are barbarians. The RoW appears to be embracing China's conception while the "demon" West opposes it merely because they're barbarians and are incapable of being otherwise. You're likely familiar with the concepts of Being and Becoming. IMO, for the paradigm change to become complete is the need for humanity to make the transition from one to the other, which will take time and effort. Earth now has over 8 Billion humans, but only a few thousand demons.
Sep 29, 2023·edited Sep 29, 2023Liked by Karl Sanchez
Yeah, but that's interesting, no? 'Only a few thousand demons'. That means it's not a development thing for the human race, rather a cultural-political-management issue. How can only a few thousand be permitted to do so much damage? Well, let's hope Russia and China has gamed this out well.
Today I was imagining that a deal has been done: the Gnomes of Zurich et alia are going to be given the role of Central Banker, like they did with the US Federal Reserve. China will be permitted to grow and manifest in the way she wishes but these guys will run international currency. In return, they will insure that the West will not resist militarily. They also will still be in charge of Western polities to which end it seems first they want an engineered Depression or worse after which they can do their 'Reset'. The Chinese development was kicked off in part by agreements with Western financial grandees. I don't think those ties have gone away, indeed without them China wouldn't have been able to expand market share in the West so rapidly. These elites do not favor the people in whose countries they dwell. In a way, they are changing horses mid-stream, moving from West to East. But it looks like there will soon be a single, international order.
The only way for China-Russia to effect this without major world war is to do a deal. I think the digital currency regime soon to be trotted out may very well be that deal. If so, hopefully they can buck the trend of the past few centuries and not allow those Gnomes in their systemic midst to undermine their civilization the way it has wrecked the West's - although it was never as developed as those in Asia even though it also evidenced some terrific creativity and beauty from time to time, which is why nearly all the greatest classical musicians today are Asian. They know a good thing...
The Toynbee- Ikeda Dialogue' is a series of talks much on the subject of Harmony and Unity from comparative eastern western perspectives.
Much insight can be gleamed from these two modern day philosophers particularly for western understanding on these profound Asian principles or universal laws.
Thanks! I'll try to find time to examine them. I went to The Archive where I read the book's preface then went to Alibris found a copy and ordered it. I'd wager Lavrov has read it and that no current member of any Wetsern government has. Thanks very much for the suggestion!
Sep 28, 2023·edited Sep 28, 2023Liked by Karl Sanchez
During my youth much of my early educational orientation was centered in Buddhists theology and and Asian customs, where I practiced these teachings within a Japanese- American lay organization some years ago.
Will the West ever accept the East's wisdom, mature and evolve? Frankly, I have little confidence that will happen anytime soon, and the world will divide into two Blocs. My exposure to Eastern thought began at a young age prior to high school in the late 1960s. Sanchezism is a hybrid of East and West that seeks harmony and wisdom. I once signed my emails and ended my list-serve comments with the following sayings: Knowledge is Power & Gnosis=Logos.
Karl, your work is tireless and much appreciated. My interests have a somewhat different direction but I share a recent finding that quite stunned me as someone who researches the linkages around Schopenhauer. As you may know, Schopenhauer was the first significant western philosopher to have studied eastern thought (at least to the extent it could be studied at that time). He had an unparalleled influence on subsequent artists, writers and composers. The discovery: at the time of his death, the composer Richard Wagner (“Ring of the Nibelungen”, a visionary cycle of 4 operas which are even more vital in 2023 than they were at the time, roughly 1865), was working on ideas for a final opera based on the life of the Buddha.
Thanks for your reply. Musicians are often brilliant beyond their craft. Thelonious Monk and physics and other jazzmen, and certainly composers. Thanks for your participation here!
Thanks! Wang Yi's fine articulation is quite challenging to those opposing such fine universal ideals. What a manifesto along with all the other proposals merged into one. Finding Harmony and making it last is the goal.
And FYI alt refs to sources
Full Text Global Development Initiative — Building on 2030 SDGs
for Stronger, Greener and Healthier Global Development
https://www.mfa.gov.cn/eng/topics_665678/GDI/wj/202305/P020230511396286957196.pdf
Full text: The Global Security Initiative Concept Paper
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202302/1285900.shtml?id=11
Full text Xi Jinping's keynote address CPC in Dialogue with World Political Parties High-level Meeting
http://english.news.cn/20230316/31e80d5da3cd48bea63694cee5156d47/c.html
And while reading the text, it should be clear why the Outlaw US Empire and its vassals would oppose such an initiative as quite simply they would be unable to control it and use it for their own ends.
The West has been poisoning that well for some years now. Chinaphobia stands right next to Russophobia in the Western lexicon. Trust no one, except us.
That magic carpet is increasingly showing wear marks.
Yes, and it's very lumpy now too with all that's been swept under it.
Thanks for warning us about a long read. Most of our leaders have no clue about Chinese culture and thought, Confucianism. Nowhere in these speeches is the concept of the Mandate of Heaven explored, probably because the Mandate essentially governs the internal behavior of the government rather than foreign policy. It has no direct effect of foreign policy, but it does have strong indirect effects.
Actually the concepts of Harmony and Balance are mentioned, But yes, for Chinese and most East Asians, the tenets are self-evident. Confucianism in modern geopolitics is a topic to be explored. There're some excellent recent publications on that in English.
A lot of reading but you were right in its importance.
Now that Russia no longer looks West, it's becoming a Civilizational State too.
I intend to post the transcript of the "This is China" program that I cited as it has much more info and insight into how China sees itself which translates into what it sees as the reasonableness of its proposals.
"This one essay equals one semester of graduate seminar work on the current topic, unfortunately without all the discussion. That readers will need to generate within their own circles by sharing this with their friends and family as there’s nothing unreasonable in Xi Jinping’s proposals whatsoever unless you’re one of the afflicted. Knowing what’s been proposed also kills the Establishment Narrative aiming at demonizing both Russia and China and all other nations that join with them in common cause."
Well, I don't think it equals a whole semester of graduate work (!) but I do thank you for putting it together.
It all sounds fine in principle - very much so - but there are never any specifics and of course it remains to be seen if the Wicked West will just allow them to rise peacefully (as they should). So far so good, if you ignore the hundreds of thousands who died the last year or so in Ukraine. The idea and ideal of a unified world at peace is not new, but in this era we have a better chance than ever before to realize it. Indeed, we already live in a single world order of sorts, but obviously there are several leading factions at odds with each other. The Chinese model sketched out above presupposes everyone being 'in the same boat', on the same page, essentially in the same Party like the CPC. I believe this is the correct approach on many levels but whether it is realizable remains to be seen.
Right now the RoW has a great Demon to counteract, to resist, who provides them great motivation to unite against it. Once the Demon is subdued, which will most likely happen this century one way or another, then what? What will unite them? Everything in Xi's speeches sounds excellent. It's just never happened before in world history and this vision contains no administrative or procedural recommendations whatsoever. It's pure vision.
That's good for now, perhaps. But words don't cook rice. They are building a coalition of sorts - though Xi often recommends against that sort of thing - and are walking their talk, not starting wars, not conquering other countries, aiding developing countries and developing global infrastructure. So, yes, typical US anti-Chinese and anti-Russian rhetoric seems off. But they are taking on a very big thing armed with an ideological vision of making the world a perfect place.
I fear the whole thing may prove far more risky than it might seem to the casual reader going through all these positive statements; and if history is any guide, ideologically led movements, no matter how well intentioned, often result in the deaths of a high percentage of the involved populations - witness England, France, Russia, China and more.
What China's promoting is the notion that humanity is one big family, which it is actually. As I wrote at the end of today's second article, humanity must evolve beyond what might be termed its barbarian age given how fellow humans are treated. The key to accomplishing that IMO is to eliminate the idea that Others exist, although there are clearly outliers as not all humans are barbarians. The RoW appears to be embracing China's conception while the "demon" West opposes it merely because they're barbarians and are incapable of being otherwise. You're likely familiar with the concepts of Being and Becoming. IMO, for the paradigm change to become complete is the need for humanity to make the transition from one to the other, which will take time and effort. Earth now has over 8 Billion humans, but only a few thousand demons.
Yeah, but that's interesting, no? 'Only a few thousand demons'. That means it's not a development thing for the human race, rather a cultural-political-management issue. How can only a few thousand be permitted to do so much damage? Well, let's hope Russia and China has gamed this out well.
Today I was imagining that a deal has been done: the Gnomes of Zurich et alia are going to be given the role of Central Banker, like they did with the US Federal Reserve. China will be permitted to grow and manifest in the way she wishes but these guys will run international currency. In return, they will insure that the West will not resist militarily. They also will still be in charge of Western polities to which end it seems first they want an engineered Depression or worse after which they can do their 'Reset'. The Chinese development was kicked off in part by agreements with Western financial grandees. I don't think those ties have gone away, indeed without them China wouldn't have been able to expand market share in the West so rapidly. These elites do not favor the people in whose countries they dwell. In a way, they are changing horses mid-stream, moving from West to East. But it looks like there will soon be a single, international order.
The only way for China-Russia to effect this without major world war is to do a deal. I think the digital currency regime soon to be trotted out may very well be that deal. If so, hopefully they can buck the trend of the past few centuries and not allow those Gnomes in their systemic midst to undermine their civilization the way it has wrecked the West's - although it was never as developed as those in Asia even though it also evidenced some terrific creativity and beauty from time to time, which is why nearly all the greatest classical musicians today are Asian. They know a good thing...
It's not merely Russia & China; it's the Global Majority. Again, I hope to touch upon some of that tomorrow.
Yes, that's what I meant. Am leaning towards short-handing it into 'Eurasia' or 'Eurasia rising.'
The Toynbee- Ikeda Dialogue' is a series of talks much on the subject of Harmony and Unity from comparative eastern western perspectives.
Much insight can be gleamed from these two modern day philosophers particularly for western understanding on these profound Asian principles or universal laws.
Thanks! I'll try to find time to examine them. I went to The Archive where I read the book's preface then went to Alibris found a copy and ordered it. I'd wager Lavrov has read it and that no current member of any Wetsern government has. Thanks very much for the suggestion!
You can find it at libgen.
Also, you might enjoy this one:
https://worldculture.org/articles/12-Toynbee-and-Buddhism%20fr%20GL.pdf (Article)
Thanks. It's in my Thought file.
During my youth much of my early educational orientation was centered in Buddhists theology and and Asian customs, where I practiced these teachings within a Japanese- American lay organization some years ago.
I was at that time a student of Daisaku Ikeda.
Will the West ever accept the East's wisdom, mature and evolve? Frankly, I have little confidence that will happen anytime soon, and the world will divide into two Blocs. My exposure to Eastern thought began at a young age prior to high school in the late 1960s. Sanchezism is a hybrid of East and West that seeks harmony and wisdom. I once signed my emails and ended my list-serve comments with the following sayings: Knowledge is Power & Gnosis=Logos.
Karl, your work is tireless and much appreciated. My interests have a somewhat different direction but I share a recent finding that quite stunned me as someone who researches the linkages around Schopenhauer. As you may know, Schopenhauer was the first significant western philosopher to have studied eastern thought (at least to the extent it could be studied at that time). He had an unparalleled influence on subsequent artists, writers and composers. The discovery: at the time of his death, the composer Richard Wagner (“Ring of the Nibelungen”, a visionary cycle of 4 operas which are even more vital in 2023 than they were at the time, roughly 1865), was working on ideas for a final opera based on the life of the Buddha.
Thanks for your reply. Musicians are often brilliant beyond their craft. Thelonious Monk and physics and other jazzmen, and certainly composers. Thanks for your participation here!
Karl, there are some footnote links in the early parts that go no where. fyi, cheers
Thanks. That section was supposed to be a block quote, the footnotes immediately following, so I left them as they are. Missed that, so thanks again!
Thanks Karl, good stuff, excellent ongoing resource ... not finished yet, buy fyi.
Remarks of Wang Yi at press conference on white paper on a global community of shared future
image graphics of quotes
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202309/1298959.shtml?id=11
Thanks! Wang Yi's fine articulation is quite challenging to those opposing such fine universal ideals. What a manifesto along with all the other proposals merged into one. Finding Harmony and making it last is the goal.